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Dumbing down police recruitment exams
World magazine ^ | 18 Mar | Segelstein

Posted on 03/19/2011 6:56:22 AM PDT by flowerplough

The U.S. Department of Justice ordered the Dayton, Ohio, Police Department to lower testing standards on its recruitment exam. Why? Because not enough blacks passed the test the first time around.

So the Dayton Civil Service Board made the required changes. Up until now, potential recruits needed to score 66 percent on the first part of the exam, and 72 percent on the second in order to move on to the next phase in the process. Under the new DOJ-ordered guidelines, 58 percent and 63 percent are now the benchmarks.

Based on the new, lowered standards, 258 more people “passed” the exam. Information has not been released regarding their demographics. But according to the Dayton Daily News, the city is now allowed to proceed.

A Dayton TV news website reports that Dayton NAACP President Derrick Foward disagrees with the mandated adjustments: “The NAACP does not support individuals failing a test and then having the opportunity to be gainfully employed. If you lower the score for any group of people, you’re not getting the best qualified people for the job.”

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And is this much different from lowering Fire Departments' strength and fitness requirements in order to hire token female "firemen"?

Women Firefighters: The Gender Boondoggle

...quietly rolled back strict physical requirements, just like Manning, implementing a secret "no fail" policy to pass women who plainly could not heft chain saws up ladders or run with heavy hoses, or who had other physical deficiencies. In the almost entirely male yet multiracial force, firefighters were furious that academy rejects were getting through, and many questioned whether Bamattre was jeopardizing firefighters and the public.

http://www.laweekly.com/2008-01-24/news/the-gender-boondoggle/4/

1 posted on 03/19/2011 6:56:24 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough
A Dayton TV news website reports that Dayton NAACP President Derrick Foward disagrees with the mandated adjustments: “The NAACP does not support individuals failing a test and then having the opportunity to be gainfully employed. If you lower the score for any group of people, you’re not getting the best qualified people for the job.”

Foward gets it, sort of. Why not raise the required scores for all people if you are looking for the best people, not just leave the scores where they are?

2 posted on 03/19/2011 6:59:46 AM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: flowerplough

If you don’t like under-qualified cops, just wait til Obamacare is implemented. Those under-qualified doctors have to work somewhere.


3 posted on 03/19/2011 7:00:05 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: flowerplough

“The NAACP does not support individuals failing a test and then having the opportunity to be gainfully employed. If you lower the score for any group of people, you’re not getting the best qualified people for the job.”

Wow. Good for him. I can’t believe that I just read that but wow. He actually disagrees with lowering standards.


4 posted on 03/19/2011 7:01:26 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: flowerplough

this has been going on here in the northeast for 30+ years...for police and fire departments...

tests are dumbed down for physical and intellectual requirements...

we are committing societal suicide...


5 posted on 03/19/2011 7:01:51 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: chickadee
Really? What the heck does that have to do with the story. Find a thread on Obamacare and write that. Try for once to provide an intelligent fact on this story. You are getting crusty in your boring statements.
6 posted on 03/19/2011 7:03:19 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Vaquero

This has been going on in business, universities...everywhere.


7 posted on 03/19/2011 7:06:02 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: mlocher

It would be difficult to staff up adequately if the standards were higher. Stronger-minded people tend not to be employed as door-busting, dog-shooting, ticket-writing, thugs. Dumb, insecure gang-mentality union types are the order of the day.


8 posted on 03/19/2011 7:06:58 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: napscoordinator

Dear, sorry you missed the point. There isn’t enough time in the world to explain it to you.

Run along, now.


9 posted on 03/19/2011 7:07:25 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: chickadee

Typical high school response. I am so sick of you folks that can’t contribute to the article. It really is not difficult.


10 posted on 03/19/2011 7:09:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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“He actually disagrees with lowering standards.”

He probably disagrees with lowering standards for everybody instead of giving extra points to just the protected class he represents. That was the first thing I thought of when I read his statement. Sad, I know.


11 posted on 03/19/2011 7:10:48 AM PDT by PLMerite (Thanks for fixing the clock.)
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Test scores lowered for blacks tell us the following:

*That blacks are too lazy to study as hard as other racial groups.

AND/OR

*That blacks are too stupid to compete.

The U.S. Department of Justice appears to be sending a racist message - or the above statements are true...


12 posted on 03/19/2011 7:11:36 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: napscoordinator

Your contributions to this thread have been invaluable.


13 posted on 03/19/2011 7:12:44 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: flowerplough; DakotaRed; Cobra64; BenKenobi; cripplecreek; Tublecane; JPG; JABit; ...

Test scores lowered for blacks tell us the following:

*That blacks are too lazy to study as hard as other racial groups.

AND/OR

*That blacks are too stupid to compete.

The U.S. Department of Justice appears to be sending a racist message - or the above statements are true...


14 posted on 03/19/2011 7:12:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: napscoordinator
Really? What the heck does that have to do with the story. Find a thread on Obamacare and write that. Try for once to provide an intelligent fact on this story. You are getting crusty in your boring statements.

If I may be so presumptuous as to speak for the poster you responded to; I think the point is that Obama care will result in a shortage of doctors due to the good ones leaving the profession (plenty of evidence for this out there), and a lowering of medical school admission standards to backfill the shortage.

15 posted on 03/19/2011 7:18:49 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: napscoordinator; chickadee

May I attempt to be of assistance?

Shortage of Doctors an Obstacle to Obama Goals - NYTimes.com
Apr 26, 2009 · Shortage of Doctors an Obstacle to Obama Goals ... would increase access to care but could make it more difficult to rein in costs. The need for more doctors ... www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/health/policy/27care.html


16 posted on 03/19/2011 7:19:29 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: achilles2000
This has been going on in business, universities...everywhere.

Yes, it's called the "disparate impact" doctrine. It is one of the most totalitarian doctrines ever handed down by the courts. It's genesis was in the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

A lot of Freepers seem to be wholly unaware of the doctrine and its compliment of regulations in the appearing in the Federal Register.

"Disparate Impact" doctrine is one of the reasons I so forcefully oppose school vouchers for private tuition.

If people believe that "disparate impact" doctrine won't be used to destroy private schools with lower standards after vouchers become widespread, they are so woefully naive as to be dangerous.

17 posted on 03/19/2011 7:21:33 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: flowerplough

How long before cops arrive at a crime scene and the first thing they do is exchange fist bumps and gang signals with the perps. Why don’t they just give a badge to anyone that applies?


18 posted on 03/19/2011 7:23:11 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: flowerplough

So many cops now are so stupid that they should never have access to a gun.Then you tell me the people in charge are dropping the standards even lower?


19 posted on 03/19/2011 7:23:43 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: flowerplough

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2011/03/dayton-oh-drops-minimum-test-scores-for.html


20 posted on 03/19/2011 7:25:42 AM PDT by traderrob6
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