14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship & The Law of Statelessness

ConstitutionallySpeaking ^ | April 10, 2011 | Linda Melin

[patlin]

Exactly, but they claim daddy George was a dual citizen, when in fact he never was. They claim that Mitt inherited this dual citizen because of his dad's birth on foreign soil. Both are utterly absurd.

[patlin]

Danae, for the umteenth time, George Romney was never a Mexican citizen. Mexico never claimed him as one of their own.

[trumandogz]

Do you really believe that George Romney's parents were refuges simply because they fled the US to escape polygamy laws?

[RegulatorCountry]

If it has been established that George Romney was a citizen of the United States at the time of Mitt Romney’s birth and the remainder of the information you’ve supplied is accurate, then Mitt Romney is without doubt a natural born citizen and eligible to the Presidency.

If it hasn’t been established, it will need to be established and Romney’s eligibility should be regarded as doubtful until that time.

If it is not true that he was a citizen at the time of Mitt Romney’s birth, then Mitt Romney’s eligibility to the Presidency is, at best, in doubt. Resolution of that doubt likely would hinge upon the realities of citizenship at birth in both Mexico and the United States, as you’ve noted.

At worst, he is ineligible.

I don’t care for Romney at all as a potential candidate. But, I’m not going to try and depict an ineligibility where there is none. I won’t depict eligibility where there is none as well. Piyush Amrit “Bobby” Jindal is quite clearly not eligible. John McCain’s eligibility was and still is in doubt.

Funny how we’re suddenly surrounded with so many Presidential candidates with eligiblity issues, isn’t it? It’s almost as if somebody wants the Presidency hamstrung with foreign entanglements.

[patlin]

Yoou have a lot of supposition going on there, now back it up with the law. Show me the treaty between the US & Mexico in place in 1907 that I must have missed, that said children born to Americans on Mexican soil are Mexican citizens. Put some of that kenetic energy to use for something other than posting emotional outbursts.

[patlin]

Because of their polygamist views, George Romney's folks were run out of the US & established a mormom compound in Mexico. During the Mexican Revolution, these polygamists again were coming under attack so they fled to back to the US and stayed in TX for a while before returning to Utah. George met Lenore while in high school in Ut. He studied missionary work in England for a while before returning to the US and working. George worked for established political elites upon his return and later became as lobbyist for the auto industry during the war using his expertise to revamp factories for the war efforts. By 1947, George had established himself as a prominent member of the Detroit society and was the director of The American Trade Association at the time of Mitt's birth. There is no doubt that at the time of Mitt's birth, George Romney was exclusively a US citizen. As to his mother, there never was any doubt.

[patlin]

if you spent as much time studying history as you do posting comments, you could answer that question yourself.

[RegulatorCountry]

And we know for a fact that there was no sort of Mexican generational citizenship, a la England, Italy or Israel, that could potentially have gummed up the works, as some have attempted to claim?

If so, there can be no doubt, Mitt Romney was a natural born citizen for Constitutional purposes, at the time of his birth.

[RegulatorCountry]

Whether I agree with their religious beliefs regarding plural marriage or not, it does sound to me as if they were fleeing due to that aspect of their beliefs being made illegal. So, they fit the definition of refugee. But persecution? They came back, and laws forbidding polygamy were not repealed.

[GBA]

Thank you for the great work you’re doing! You will no doubt bring out the usual (and unusual) suspects.

[Danae]

He never could have been a Mexican Citizen. He could have CLAIMED it. There is a difference and I know what it is.

At MOST, he was a dual citizen, and that means he was also American, and his children would be NBC’s.

The man was an American.

[Diogenesis]

Wrong. There is doubt. Let’s see Romney’s
and his father’s birth certificates
(like Gov. Palin and Donal Trump have done).

[trumandogz]

The answer is quite simple.

Those fleeing the US in order to escape criminal charges are fugitives, not refugees.

[Diogenesis]

There is no supposition. Bishop Romney, the carpetbagging
creator of ObamaCARE and RomneyMARRIAGE-by-force-of-Romney,
is obviously Mexican.

Proof: Every RomneyBOT attacks the proofers.

BTW, Romney threw the elections in 2008 and 2010
to the DNC, which suggests his relationship with Soros
also has a role in covering up Romney’s Mexican heritage.

[RegulatorCountry]

You suddenly sound all hard line and stuff regarding religion. Why am I not surprised?

[patlin]

And we know for a fact that there was no sort of Mexican generational citizenship, a la England, Italy or Israel, that could potentially have gummed up the works, as some have attempted to claim?

Yes, we do. Mexico law was influenced Spanish rule & French rule. They were very homegeneous people and they didn't take to mixing blood, let alone adopting those not born of their blood as one of their own. They never adopted the feudal law of "jus soli" and to this day, they have one of the strictist immigration laws on the books.

[patlin]

Who says Mitt could have claimed Mexican citizenship? How could he claim something his father never possessed?

[Diogenesis]

Under American law Romney and Obama are Not eligible,
and both have pissed on the Constitution with their
ObamaCARE=RomneyCARE.

[RegulatorCountry]

Alright, then. On the basis of what you’ve written here and assuming that it is all accurate and confirmed to be so, I’m prepared to say that Mitt Romney is a natural born citizen and therefore meets that requirement for eligibility to the office of President.

A competent legal authority with no inherent conflict of interest would need to verify all this, in order for any such “vetting” to ever be consistently applied or to hold up over time, though. Popular opinion got us here and got us Obama.

[patlin]

Bishop Romney, the carpetbagging creator of ObamaCARE and RomneyMARRIAGE-by-force-of-Romney, is obviously Mexican

So by that theory, since I own a car built in Mexico that I like very much, that I searched for a year to find, I can claim Mexican citizenship and therefore I am not eligible to be president even though my heritage goes back to the 1st English settlement in the US. You truly have lost your mind. Like I said, detest the policies & politics, but you can not deny the law of citizenship eligibility