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1 posted on 07/30/2011 12:43:12 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

a lot of the “birther” stuff, can get complicated. (and some, needs graphics experts).

so i think the best way to start, is something that is simple, clear, and easy to explain.

How did a Hawaiian teenager, get a Connecticut SSN ?

(under the laws at the time, for a teenager,
the only possible way, would have been to apply in person.
and Barry Soetoro never went to CT.)

it is his. it’s on his (dubious) Selective Service Form.
and it is a CT SSN. not Hawaiian.


2 posted on 07/30/2011 1:05:57 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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I frequently am a witness to the real-time acting out of the Kübler-Ross behavioral model of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.
***That is the process I have been through, in grieving for the loss of America as a constitutional republic.

Lately I don’t even add the keyword “certifigate” any more. This is probably the last article I will do that for, because it seems well written and serves as a good punctuation mark for a good keyword.


3 posted on 07/30/2011 1:07:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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Many politically active Birthers are stuck in the anger stage.

Really? I haven't noticed.

5 posted on 07/30/2011 1:46:20 PM PDT by Kleon
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The nullification of Obama would instantly remove two Supreme Court justices; reverse all court appointments of judges and federal posts made by Obama and the decisions heretofore made, creating instant chaos in all matters decided or presided over by those justices or czars; reverse ObamaCare and its funding...."

Legally, that's just not true. Obama would not be the first government official in US history who has been discovered to be not properly holding his office by reason of a lack of some sort of eligibility or qualification.

In fact, it has happened from time to time at all levels of government and the law has become well established over the centuries as to what happens under the "de facto officer" doctrine.

Under this doctrine, even though it is later discovered that a government official who holds color of official title to his office by virtue of a known election or appointment failed to meet a prerequisite of holding office, such as an eligibility requirement, nevertheless actions taken by him within the scope and by the apparent authority of that office will be considered valid and binding. This has consistently been the position taken by the courts.

The only difference in this case is that it is the president. And in order to remove him, under the Constitution the Congress would have the responsibility to determine in an impeachment trial whether he is wrongly holding his office, and if so, to remove him from office after which the courts would then have jurisdiction to try him for crimes.

11 posted on 07/30/2011 4:59:42 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: opentalk; AZ .44 MAG; Safrguns; repubmom; Hotlanta Mike; nikos1121; YellowRoseofTx; Dustbunny; ...

ping


16 posted on 07/30/2011 6:22:27 PM PDT by null and void (Day 920. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: opentalk

To really simplify it, one can just tell the uninformed person that O’s father being a foreigner makes him ineligible. We know that alone makes him a usurper. Then the person can be told the other reasons. It’s pretty damn easy to just ask them “Who does BHO say his father was?” they answer The Kenyan was, then you point out the full definition of a Natural Born American Citizen.

So easy to understand, even a caveman democrat voter can understand it!

: )

Although they will deny it, throw a fit, and who knows what else.

Yes, I too found the levels of “anger, denial, acceptance, depression” mentioned in the article, to be painfully similar to my demeanor following the election of The Usurper.

I can see 2013 from my porch!!!

Calgon, take me away!
(if anyone gets that, I know how old you are!)


23 posted on 07/30/2011 8:18:34 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss.")
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I’ve discussed the issue with family members who argue from the position that even if there are questions about Obama’s eligibility it’s best not to go down that road because the consequences of the suspicions being proven correct would be catastrophic. What’s done is done. I get the sense they feel rather heroic for having arrived at such a sophisticated, enlightened view of the matter.


33 posted on 07/31/2011 7:09:43 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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that multiple criminal acts have been perpetuated

...perpetrated...
51 posted on 02/21/2012 3:23:04 AM PST by aruanan
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