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"THE PUBLIUS ENIGMA: Newly Revealed Evidence Establishes That President James Madison’s Administration Required Citizen Parentage To Qualify Native-Born Persons For U.S. Citizenship."

[phockthis]

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[simplesimon]

Leo Ping

[Las Vegas Ron]

Great find and excellent work!

Congrats!

[hoosiermama]

Thanks for all you do. Can’t wait to read the book when published.

[puppypusher]

The Courts,Including the Supreme Court are not going to touch this case with a ten foot poll.Afterall the Ninth Circuit has already said that the American People have No standing in Bringing these cases against Obama.

Unfortunately the Government will have standing in bringing all of these devious laws into being and using the Point of a gun or the threat of imprisonment to enforce them on us.

This country is in so much trouble.

[UCANSEE2]

“The whole story cannot be understood by way of online searches. The internet is barren on this case. Some of the necessary information isn’t even available in the Library of Congress or National Archives. “

I have read various articles of the years which indicated that those ‘in government’ have been removing any references or legal decisions that interfere with ‘current liberal understanding’ of ‘the law’.

[353FMG]

The law doesn’t apply to Bambi — he is one of Holder’s people and Pelosi’s people.

[Sherman Logan]

Got it. An obscure newspaper article overrides multiple Supreme Court decisions, not to mention constitutional amendments.

Glad to have that cleared up.

[TEXOKIE]

Interesting find...

[bksanders]

I do not see Leo’s direct conclusion(s) and find myself left to draw my own. Is this to suppose an indirect inference into the intent of the Federalist Papers rendering “…British common law rule of jus soli governed citizenship from the very genesis of the United States” invalid?

[DiogenesLamp]

Dude! Way to Go!

[Bellflower]

To my knowledge there isn't any, but is there a prerequisite requirement of “Natural Born Citizen” to any other office or privilege in this Country? If there is we need to take advantage of this and bring a case into the courts that has nothing to do with Obama and run with it. Roe vs. Wade, for instance, was not a real case but a set up to bring about the atrocity of abortion being legalized. If possible, can we find a real case that doesn't have to do with Obama and use it to bring him down.

[Danae]

This is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my gosh guys, guess what? Natural Born Citizenship was a HOT freaking topic in 1811! I thought that had not happened before (best feigned shock voice evah)! Gee, and by MADISON no less writing under his old “Publius” moniker he used with Jay and Hamilton!

All those arguments about how this was never discussed... and OMG NEVER before 1895(Second best feigned shock voice evah)!!!! This is complete and total 100% BS. Wong Kim Ark should be OVERRULLED. Gray’s actions (and his dicta in the case are demonstribly FAULTY, and the current court system is REFUSING to hear cases - with excuses of “Standing”?!!!??) What happened to hearing cases with regard to injustice and merit?? Gray’s decision, and his reasons for em should be SEVERELY examined, and further shoved up the current courts noses, blatantly and obnoxiously.

Grey wrote in the decision so deceptively, but he protected Arthur’s lack of Natural Born Citizenship, and thereby protected his OWN permanent place on the SCOTUS.

He did so because he was appointed by ARTHUR!!! The very man who GAVE HIM A SCOTUS SEAT was himself an unconstitutional POTUS, KNEW it and so he bought himself a SCOTUS judge. I can’t prove corruption here in the form of a check stubb, but darn if the pieces don’t fit. Gray had to have known.

Oooooo this is starting to look really ugly for the After-Birthers.... Obots beware, you have lost Madison and Agnew in just the last couple of weeks. You must be just besides yourself wondering what he is going to dig up next!!!! Ah to be a fly on the wall..... ;)

Leo is Brilliant is he not? Really, Look what this guy is doing for this Nation. He is giving us our HISTORY BACK! God Bless him and all he touches! AMEN!

We need to give this guy an award. I am so serious. What investigator is doing this. NONE! All the journalists today just follow the daily happenings... Are they getting trumped or what?

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[Danae]

Take a look see here! O.O Ping to thread :)

HAPPY NEW YEAR’S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Godebert]

bttt...

[DiogenesLamp]

I just wish to thank you again for finding this. :)

[V K Lee]

ping!

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My research leads me to believe that the article was written by James Madison, but this has not been conclusively established yet. Regardless of authorship, Madison was President at the time the article was written, and it discusses the official position of his administration denying U.S. citizenship based upon simple birth in the country.

Maybe not. Madison didn't own the pen name and had a lot of other stuff on his plate. A set of "Publius" letters published at about that time was written by William Pinkney, who was Madison's Attorney General, so maybe that was him.

I don't think you're going to find any kind of "smoking gun" about this that proves your case beyond a doubt. You find Madison saying this in Congress in 1789:

It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.