Posted on 02/26/2013 11:00:23 AM PST by marktwain
The .300blackout was designed because the .223 just did not have the stopping power. This is a serious load. Problem right now is availability of the cartridge. Cabella’s, etc carry a variety of .223, etc but little in the .300 blackout. I get mine from a local gunshop. Bit more pricy than the .223 but it is a much stronger load, even in sub-sonic.
“This is good for both the two legged and four legged varieties? Or should I just stick with my 7.62x39?”
The 300 AAC advantage would only be in using 220 grain bullets at sub-sonic velocities. The rifling twist of one turn in 8” allows you to use those heavier bullets. So unless you want to use a silencer and not have the bullet break the sound barrier stick with your 7.62x39.
Thank you.
Very cool. I saw this demo’ed when it was presented at the Shot Show. Almost unbelievable. Bad news for ‘targets’.
“The weapon will be banned before its produced ... and the ammo for it will be impossible to come by”
Ummm, upppers have been produced in .300 blackout for quite some time.
“The .300blackout was designed because the .223 just did not have the stopping power.”
No, the .300BLK was designed because the .223 does not function at subsonic velocities - and because AAC is first and foremost a suppressor manufacturer.
The .300 Whisper is close to fulfilling the intent of slapping a suppressor on an AR platform, but being a “wildcat” cartridge is designed and produced with insufficient rigor to make it as a viable military/CQB round. Refining the .300 Whisper for registering SAMMI specs, optimization for feeding in an AR platform with minimal adjustments (barrel & bolt, no change to magazine), and ensuring a hefty & reliable thumping at both supersonic and subsonic velocities at meaningful ranges, all emerged as the .300BLK design.
Having built the ammunition for impressive performance with a suppressor, AAC is now expanding platforms and accessories to make it a very attractive caliber - and make sales of accompanying suppressors a given. The AR platform was the first obvious choice, promoted with specialized uppers, whole guns, and culminating in their impressive “Honey Badger” gun. Being a serious caliber, and AAC having been purchased by Remington, the next obvious platform was a bolt action rifle, resulting in the Remington 700 AAC in .300BLK (pre-threaded for suppressor, of course). If you’re going to spend some $800 on a specialty rifle and a $1000 can to go with it, you’ll be wanting a suitable scope to mount thereon - hence the Nikon glass leading this thread.
Adapt the 7.62x39 to fit & feed in an AR15 platform with minimal adjustments to the latter, with an eye toward suppression, and you get the .300 Whisper. Optimize that for rigorous manufacturing and military application and suppressor use (both super and sub sonic), and you get the .300BLK.
Proceed accordingly.
Can we get Michael Savage’s Meatball Recipe ???
Wish I could get one in Maryland ... They are about to ban pea shooters here in Maryland because you can stuff more than 20 peas in your mouth ... it would now be classified as an assault weapon with a high capacity mags.
On average I’ll shoot about 60 to 70 feral hogs a year and between 30 and 40 coyotes on the big ranch. The 300 Blackout couldn’t handle this type of hunting, most is long range and running. I’ve been through several ranch rifles and the 243 shooting 70 grain Noslers at about 3600 fps is my go to caliber. While I’m not a big fan of the 308 it’s probably one of the best hog rounds out there in the right platform but it lacks in the extended range department. This is open country and fast and flat covers allot of area’s. When I get really serious about knocking down the song dogs I break out the 257 Weatherby but that caliber is not cheap to shoot. Now before anybody says the 308 is great long range round let me say this. In a match where you have known yardage and time to dial in your scope it’s a great round, it’s accurate and easy on the shoulder. When you have running critters at unknown yardages and just a few seconds to get a shot of it don’t cut the mustard. Fast and flat eliminates allot of guess work.
Out of Stock.
I’ve got allot of friends that use the blackout for nightime hog hunting where the distance is 50 yards or shorter and they all say the same thing. The twist needed for the sub sonic rounds will not work for the higher velocity rounds so you need two dedicated uppers for your AR’s.
Never heard of .300 AAC. The short-fat fad is dead, so I’m sure it is not just a shortend 300 WSM.
Is this just a shortened .308 with improved neck or something? Sounds like some kind of accurate 7.62x39 cartridge. I’ll be surprised if it is dimensionally much different than a 7.62x39.
Thank goodness for the internet. Time to do some research...
Yep, I was dead right. They just mimicked the 7.62x39 ballistics in a shorter case. 7.62x35. whoopee. Same ballistics as a .30-30.
Who needs .300 Blackout for hogs. Grab dads old .30-30 levergun and go to town. Better yet for hogging, grab his .35 remington.
I’m not knocking this new round. The manufactures have to keep re-inventing the wheel to keep profits up. And it gives AR platform shooters a .30 car option. I have to admit, if I could own an AR here in California, I would far rather have one in this .30 Blackout than .223.
The problem is that .556 surplus used to be dirt cheap. The .300 Blackout sounds hella expensive. What is the point?
Guess I’m gonna disagree and this May be an experience thing.
I shoot M1A .308 and or sniper use .308 , .300 and 343.
They shoot human beings as far as 1,500 yrds
that through 3-5 bandages, various light conditions, weather, dust, etc.
You might be shooting female at 300+ yrs but I go to a friends ranch and They aren’t 100 yrds and mostly under 50.
They don’t run much and if they did I’m lazy and might wait until they sto running anyway. Kept if they are looked or looking for a restroom.
No reason for them to be Sun
I believe you completely missed the point I was making.
The big advantage of the .300 AAC is that it has the twist to accurately shoot 220 grain, ballisticly efficient subsonic projectiles. With a suppressor, you have excellent capabilities to 200 yards, virtually silent, that uses standard AR-15 magazines.
There is no other .30 caliber with a standard twist fast enough to stabilize heavy for caliber rounds.
Prolly. I was just so excited that anyone had pinged me today and I just started thinking out loud and next thing I knew I spouting off via my keyboard.
I knew what you meant.
LOL
I was envisioning using this scope with a drone and it’s cameras...shooting targets I couldn’t see with the naked eye.
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