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To: fwdude
That's a good article. He doesn't really mention the historical background that led to Hook, though. Previous to Hooker, it had been acknowledged that the recognition of homosexuality as a psychopathological disorder and the classification of ego-dystonic homosexuality were not based in scientific evidence. The theories on both were formed from cultural biases in clinical observation of those who were already known to be homosexual AND afflicted with other mental disorders. There were never any "double blind" experiments on homosexuals not under psychiatric care to confirm things like ego-dystonic homosexuality.

Previous to Hooker, there were several studies done by the military during WW2 that provided the basis for her theories regarding homosexuality. This was further bolstered by studies done first by Kinsey, and then by Ford and Beach.

The one thing I don't understand is why he says that Hooker's report was discredited in 1993. There's no record of such discrediting; in fact, Hooker's work has been repeatedly confirmed by experimentation and "double blind" testing, most notable in 1973, 1987, and 2006. I'll have to email him about it.
12 posted on 03/22/2013 9:13:57 AM PDT by Hildred Castaigne
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To: Hildred Castaigne
Your defense of the de-pathologizing of homosexuality and the "studies" that lead to it are completely negated by the BEHAVIOR of those who sought to do it. If their case was so scientifically air-tight and convincing, why was violence, threats, deceit, and the most obnoxious behavior, over several years, necessary to finally bully the medical community to acquiesce to their demands? Truth doesn't need these things.

The outlandish behavior itself points to a serious pathology. Speaking anecdotally (for which there IS often something to be said) every homosexual I have been closely familiar with has had other emotional and psychological issues. Every one was on psychotropic drugs, had serious anger issues, and had debilitating problems relating to other people. Most are liberals and have the mindless liberal view on virtually everything, despise Christianity, and had horrible relationships with parents and siblings.

13 posted on 03/22/2013 9:26:57 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Hildred Castaigne

All anyone has do is to be exposed to a few seconds of the gay “culture” to know how mentally ill the whole mess really is.


19 posted on 03/22/2013 12:19:45 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Hildred Castaigne
The theories on both were formed from cultural biases in clinical observation

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

As far as psychology -what is notmal? Is it not what is predominantly observed in society, that incorporated historically and culturally -objectively when looking at arbitrary things, that which is not self destructive?

Homosexual sex is abnormal AND self destructive individually and societally -the sickness has always and always will be vowed by a normal culture with a negative bias.

The 'unbiased' culture you wish existed is the same 'unbiased' culture the leftists seek to impose upon us -get a clue and troll your leftist garbage elsewhere.

22 posted on 03/22/2013 4:20:51 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Hildred Castaigne
The one thing I don't understand is why he says that Hooker's report was discredited in 1993.

Probably because it was. Sorry, but the Hooker study is one I've reported on a few times and it should have been discredited at the outset. I'm not the only one here who's reported on it either. I'll see what I can find.

26 posted on 03/22/2013 8:01:10 PM PDT by scripter
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To: Hildred Castaigne
An excerpt from "Evelyn Hooker and the Normalization of Homosexuality" by Dr. Thomas Landess
"Evelyn Hooker has been among the most influential figures in the highly successful movement to convince the American people that homosexuality is a "normal variant" of human sexual behavior. Her 1957 study, "The Adjustment of the Male Overt Homosexual" (Journal of Projective Techniques, 1957, 21, 18-31) is the most frequently cited scientific source for the argument that homosexuality is not a pathology, that homosexuals are as free from mental disorder as heterosexuals.

Such assertions have not only found their way into standard psychology textbooks but have also provided a scientific basis for decisions in major court cases involving the legality of state sodomy laws and prohibitions against homosexual employment in certain state and local agencies (e.g., schools, police departments). Indeed, when the American Psychiatric Association debated the issue of homosexuality in 1973, Evelyn Hooker's work was Exhibit A for those who wanted to remove homosexuality from the group's list of mental disorders.

For many commentators and activists, the Hooker study effectively ended the debate over whether or not homosexuals were in any way abnormal in their relationships with each other and with the community at large. Today many Americans have accepted the idea that homosexuality is "normal" and "healthy" without realizing that such an opinion is derived in large measure from a single study -- one conducted by a UCLA professor whose previous laboratory subjects had been rats...

CONCLUSION

This unquestioning acceptance of "authorities" on the basis of professional reputation or political correctness threatens the integrity of our legal system. Judges must take greater responsibility for assessing the soundness and accuracy of testimony by so-called experts; yet, paradoxically, such a task is manifestly beyond the competence of the court. This dilemma is the consequence of the politicizing of the scientific community over the past several decades, particularly in questions of sexuality. The recent exposure of Kinsey's errors indicates just how long researchers have been careless or deliberately misleading in approaching sexual questions. And the widespread acclamation of recent, flawed studies "proving" that homosexuality is inherited genetically is evidence that the problem has only worsened over the years."

27 posted on 03/22/2013 8:04:45 PM PDT by scripter
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To: Hildred Castaigne
More on Hooker:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts?page=460#460>

28 posted on 03/22/2013 8:06:59 PM PDT by scripter
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To: Hildred Castaigne
More on Hooker:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts?page=514#514

29 posted on 03/22/2013 8:15:24 PM PDT by scripter
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To: Hildred Castaigne; fwdude

Hildred is a troll. Check it’s comments (hardly any).

Probably a hireling.


36 posted on 03/24/2013 11:46:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Hildred Castaigne
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38 posted on 03/25/2013 7:07:38 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( The purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect the other nine.)
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