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DHS confirms it's spying on 'anti-government' Americans
examiner.com ^ | MARCH 30, 2013 | RYAN KELLER

Posted on 04/03/2013 4:23:03 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

In an effort to clear up “misconceptions” that the Fusion Centers of the Department of Homeland Security spy on Americans, Arkansas State Fusion Center Director Richard Davis denied that they do this, instead saying that they’re only spying on “anti-government” Americans

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As has been reported, the DHS has released documents listing Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, people who support gun rights, who oppose the Federal Reserve, oppose illegal immigration and oppose abortion as “domestic extremists” and terrorists.

Over the last year, the DHS has purchased nearly 2 billion rounds of mostly hollow point ammunition, more than 2,700 MRAP vehicles designed to withstand mine blasts, 7,000 fully automatic assault rifles and $2 million worth of paper targets depicting average Americans with the label “No More Hesitation.” These purchases have led many to believe that the agency is getting ready to fight Americans, as the DHS only operates domestically. If this is true, then the fact that they’re spying on people with anti-government views means they’re preparing to fight those people.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: antiamericans; bho44; bhodhs; bigbrother; bigsis; counterterrorism; dhs; dhsoutofcontrol; dhsspying; dhssurveillance; domesticextremists; domesticterrorism; donutwatch; fusioncenter; mrap; nomorehesitation
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1 posted on 04/03/2013 4:23:03 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Which just proves how out-of-touch government is. No anti-govenrment group would get in a shooting war with government. That’s so 18th century.


2 posted on 04/03/2013 4:29:12 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: BarnacleCenturion

*waves to whomever the official watcher of FR is*


3 posted on 04/03/2013 4:29:44 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

omg
http://www.examiner.com/article/company-selling-targets-with-images-of-americans-to-dhs-for-firearms-training


4 posted on 04/03/2013 4:30:45 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"As has been reported, the DHS has released documents listing Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, people who support gun rights, who oppose the Federal Reserve, oppose illegal immigration and oppose abortion as “domestic extremists” and terrorists."

Wouldn't that list encompass the majority of Americans who actually work and fix stuff and make things function? As opposed to the parasites of the professional political class, and the professional welfare class? If they put all of those people in FEMA camps, the US will be the first civilization to end because of clogged toilets.

5 posted on 04/03/2013 4:31:07 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: txrefugee

The government will have no problem killing all of us... they have no limits on their power... just ask a demoncrat.

LLS


6 posted on 04/03/2013 4:33:17 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Sooth2222

http://www.examiner.com/article/company-selling-targets-with-images-of-americans-to-dhs-for-firearms-training

Do you see any of holder’s people on these training targets
all that’s missing is someone holding a Bible

oh and the family poodle, too
preferably shot in front of the kids


7 posted on 04/03/2013 4:34:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Crazieman


8 posted on 04/03/2013 4:35:46 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: silverleaf

Dang, that Examiner website is span-city!


9 posted on 04/03/2013 4:36:52 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Problem is that once we’re all dead, there will be no one left to protect the liberties of the leech class.

The people don’t realize that the government is not their friend. They can be cut off at the drop of a hat. Once the funding apparatus, the working class, of the country dries up, there will be riots. The government will use those billions of rounds of ammunition against the rioters, mostly leftists. At which point, the leftists will realize, “Oh shit. They’re killing US. We have nothing to shoot back with.”


10 posted on 04/03/2013 4:36:52 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Guess we’re all on “the list”.

To Whom Is Watching......

There is a Greater Power WATCHING you. Good luck with that.


11 posted on 04/03/2013 4:38:55 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: rarestia
The people don’t realize that the government is not their friend. They can be cut off at the drop of a hat.

 

"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles. 
 
Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups:  those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation;  [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.  "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts

12 posted on 04/03/2013 4:39:57 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
oppose illegal immigration and oppose abortion as “domestic extremists” and terrorists

Oh really? This is basically a declaration of war. Dear government, do you not fear God at all? This just gets worse by the day.

13 posted on 04/03/2013 4:45:18 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Increasingly from Alaska to Hawaii people who make certain threats online such as Facebook are finding out the next day by getting arrested.

The internet free speech and anonymity is long gone, its now a very very useful tool for DHS and other agencies.

these social group centers could have even been created by certain agencies for that sole purpose, a social internet trap.

Or a cattle yard processing facility.

The internet is the modern day cattle cars that Hitler used. And many people firmly protect their social groupings.


14 posted on 04/03/2013 4:46:37 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: NoGrayZone
There is a Greater Power WATCHING you. Good luck with that.

Same point I made before reading your post. Apparently, these folks are fearless. Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin.

15 posted on 04/03/2013 4:46:42 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: rarestia; LibLieSlayer
"Problem is that once we’re all dead, there will be no one left to protect the liberties of the leech class."

I never thought I would actually be living in the last of days; however, I was wrong.

Seems it's little minions are "setting up" for the new world order for the main it.

Those it's cannot achieve their goal unless they kill us first.

John 15:18 - 18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

16 posted on 04/03/2013 4:47:18 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"Apparently, these folks are fearless."

Stupid folks they are.

17 posted on 04/03/2013 4:49:54 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I have some news for Richard Davis...

Most of those people he’s spying on and buying bullets for won’t be around when the balloon goes up.


18 posted on 04/03/2013 4:50:58 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: NoGrayZone

I just wish they’d get to the overt acts of treason already. We all know that the Republicans won’t do anything. The Communists have been dipping a toe in the water for 5 years now. They know the water is “just right,” but they continue to wait.

At some point it’s going to come to a head. I hope it’s sooner rather than later.


19 posted on 04/03/2013 4:51:42 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

You’ll probably find Wesley Snupes on their lists. When Sbipes got bad tax advice a few years ago, the leftist criminal orgs like SPLC and ADL were beside themselves and drooling with excitement over at last getting him.

That was in internal discussions, of course ;).


20 posted on 04/03/2013 4:53:49 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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