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To: Seizethecarp
But it's all still hearsay. I saw nothing in the released files showing that the agents did any form of background investigation.

Let me offer a hypothetical. I'm not sure about the Frank Marshall Davis father theory, but I will use it to show what I mean about the INS files.

SAD becomes pregnant and knows the father is FMD. FMD is one of SAD's fathers best friends, and SAD knows when the baby is born, it will be obvious to her parents how she got pregnant. So SAD approaches BHO an tells him she's pregnant, and asks if he'll allow her to use his name on the BC, and to tell people they are married, and in return, that should help him with his immigration status (he's having a hard time financially because of his work restrictions). When she starts to show, she tells her parents that BHO is the father, and that they have eloped. Her parents disapprove and refuse her from seeing him further. She tells anyone who asks that BHO is the father, and that they are married.

This would explain many of the known facts, like why sometimes BHO claimed Jr. as his son, and not others (he was afraid of having the fake marriage discovered). Why the facts of the marriage where so mysterious. Why they never lived together (her parents did not approve of the marriage). Why she went to Washington, her parents sent her away. And every comment given in the INS files.

This hypothetical can be tweaked many different ways, birth or adoption, parents condemning the situation or being active participants, BHO being a patsy or participant, but they can all fit into the scenario where the situation was one big lie from the get go, and that that lie was told to the INS agents, and the school officials.
263 posted on 06/11/2013 1:51:40 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin

How does the Dunham-Obama divorce decree, which states that they were married by a person authorized by the state to perform marriages and lists a date, time and place of the marriage and lists one child as the offspring of that marriage, factor in to alternative scenarios?


264 posted on 06/11/2013 2:04:53 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: MMaschin

“SAD becomes pregnant and knows the father is FMD. FMD is one of SAD’s fathers best friends, and SAD knows when the baby is born, it will be obvious to her parents how she got pregnant. So SAD approaches BHO an tells him she’s pregnant, and asks if he’ll allow her to use his name on the BC, and to tell people they are married, and in return, that should help him with his immigration status (he’s having a hard time financially because of his work restrictions).”

I am onboard with SAD likely being Barry’s mom, but she still 17 when she got pregnant and your scenario seems way to precocious for a 17-year-old. goo-goo-eyed romantic lefty that SAD appeared to be her whole life.

I tend to put any conspiracy that resulted in the Kenyan birth location up a level to some kind of deal between a combination of her father BHO Sr. and FMD due to implications for the KGB cell in HI of a promising young KGB asset, BHO Sr., having his future career steering Kenya into the Soviet Bloc derailed by scandal in the US.

Zullo has always been careful not to get out in front of his evidence...well apart from the pencil marks fiasco, but that was relatively minor mistake of seeing something as conclusive that was still open to interpretation, IMO. So I expect that a lot of what Kessler put up in his 10 points was speculation by Zullo, such as “they think his is Saudi.” That is obviously a speculation, not a claim based on evidence.

I will be happy to see ANY actual evidence that Zullo comes up with to help prove the identity of Barry’s parents and location of birth.


265 posted on 06/11/2013 2:06:42 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: MMaschin
This is more or less my theory as well. To add a possible piece, it is my understanding that when Little Barry came back to Hawaii around 1970, shortly thereafter Frank Marshall Davis' wife divorced him.

There is a possibility that she got a good look at Barry and figured out hubby had diddled Ann, and she didn't like it.

279 posted on 06/11/2013 3:27:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: MMaschin
She tells anyone who asks that BHO is the father, and that they are married.

She obviously didn't tell Sr.'s friends on campus because in Rememberances they didn't have a clue about a bundle of joy until the election.

308 posted on 06/11/2013 5:23:33 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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