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Another Day on the Animal Farm.

Posted on 10/27/2013 7:10:33 AM PDT by DEPcom

Another day on the ACA (Animal) Farm (Plantation)

The Affordable Care Act will automatically force people on Medicaid when they qualify. Affordable Care Act drops the asset test to qualify for Medicaid.

Another side effect of the ACA private insurance is too expensive for the average American to afford. Where a lot of private insurance companies are dropping people now or increasing their rates due to the requirements of the ACA. If you are not effected yet, you will be in the next year or two.

Sum it up, if you own a house, but qualify for subsidized health insurance plan and between the age 55 – 64 you will be force onto Medicaid. Depending on your state laws the government can use Estate Recovery Laws to pay back the government for your health care. You cannot pass your wealth to your children and grandchildren.

I guess this is Ok with the 99%er (aka Occupy Wall Street types). Make those rich people pay, besides they should not be able to inherit wealth. Only one problem here: The 1 percent will not be effected by this, they can afford to purchase private insurance or they are in office of high power (White House, Congress exceptions, Unions etc…).

Welcome to Affordable Care Act Farm….


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; animalfarm; heathcare; huaca; obamacare; orwelliannightmare; stalinisttactics

1 posted on 10/27/2013 7:10:34 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom
Down with HUACA (Hussein's UnAffordable Care Act).


2 posted on 10/27/2013 7:26:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: DEPcom

All animals are Equal

But some animals are more equal than others


3 posted on 10/27/2013 7:27:17 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: DEPcom

The ACA was rushed thru Congress after they had lied, cheated, and stole their way to complete control of the federal government. The dems now wish they had done many things differently - because a well designed liberal program only screws people over years after the fact. The screwing is happening too fast for them too escape blame.


4 posted on 10/27/2013 7:37:12 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: DEPcom

Excellent article:
http://www.cchfreedom.org/cchf.php/800#.Um0oMvmkqAA

“George Orwell must have been writing about the Obama administration and Congress. In Animal Farm, his allegorical novel against Joseph Stalin, former dictator of the Soviet Union, he quipped, “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

While the entire country worries about how Obamacare will impact their lives, Congress and their staff have been exempted from its impact on cost.”


5 posted on 10/27/2013 7:58:05 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

Napoleon is now in the process of taking the guns from the farmers!


6 posted on 10/27/2013 7:59:24 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: DEPcom

Per wiki.answers.com:

The Seven Commandments of Animal Farm are as follows:
1. Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy
2. Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend
3. No animal shall wear clothes
4. No animal shall sleep in a bed
5. No animal shall drink alcohol
6. No animal shall kill any other animal
7. All animals are equal
The commandments change over time to suit the needs of the greedy, power hungry leaders (Napoleon, Squeeler, etc). The saying goes ‘Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely’. When the pigs discover the wonder of alcohol, they add in excess to the fifth commandment. When Napoleon discovers the comfort of a bed, the fourth commandment is changed to No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets, and so on....


7 posted on 10/27/2013 8:06:03 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: DEPcom
"Sum it up, if you own a house, but qualify for subsidized health insurance plan and between the age 55 – 64 you will be force onto Medicaid. Depending on your state laws the government can use Estate Recovery Laws to pay back the government for your health care. You cannot pass your wealth to your children and grandchildren."

Really? I'm not hearing any news on this, if it is the case we need to hear A LOT of news on this!

8 posted on 10/27/2013 8:46:04 AM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/Estate_Recovery

Affordable Care Act of 2010. Estate recovery will be forced on millions of people who might have otherwise gone without insurance. Why? Because the plan is that millions more Americans have health insurance. That would be accomplished by expanding Medicaid and implementing premium assistance (subsidies). When a person is found to be eligible for Medicaid, they will be automatically enrolled into their state’s Medicaid program. Those forced into Medicaid will, due to the federal law, also be forced into estate recovery. Their estates will be partly or fully taken over by the federal or state government when they die.


9 posted on 10/27/2013 9:08:15 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom

http://www.medicaid.gov/Medicaid-CHIP-Program-Information/By-Topics/Eligibility/Estate-Recovery.html

Estate Recovery and Liens

State Medicaid programs must recover certain Medicaid benefits paid on behalf of a Medicaid enrollee. For individuals age 55 or older, states are required to seek recovery of payments from the individual’s estate for nursing facility services, home and community-based services, and related hospital and prescription drug services. States have the option to recover payments for all other Medicaid services provided to these individuals, except Medicare cost-sharing paid on behalf of Medicare Savings Program beneficiaries.

Under certain conditions, money remaining in a trust after a Medicaid enrollee has passed away may be used to reimburse Medicaid. States may not recover from the estate of a deceased Medicaid enrollee who is survived by a spouse, child under age 21, or blind or disabled child of any age. States are also required to establish procedures for waiving estate recovery when recovery would cause an undue hardship.

States may impose liens for Medicaid benefits incorrectly paid pursuant to a court judgment. States may also impose liens on real property during the lifetime of a Medicaid enrollee who is permanently institutionalized, except when one of the following individuals resides in the home: the spouse, child under age 21, blind or disabled child of any age, or sibling who has an equity interest in the home. The states must remove the lien when the Medicaid enrollee is discharged from the facility and returns home.


Literally every state has different laws regarding this, you have to get legal advise from a senior lawyer who specializes in the field.


Filial law also comes into play.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/health/NOA/30states.pdf


Twice in my life I’ve seen families lose everything due to poor health and poor planning, quarreling family members, and Medicaid and Estate Recovery laws.

With Maryland reporting that 95%+ of all new health insurance exchange enrollees signing up for Medicaid, there are going to be large numbers of people who are going to sign up for free cheese without the faintest clue about the mousetrap.


10 posted on 10/27/2013 9:30:23 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: tired&retired
Obama has granted many exceptions to Obama Care for his political allies. Can any lawyer on Free Republic comment how this is legal in light of the "Equal Portection Clause of the Constitution."

The clause is as below:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

11 posted on 10/27/2013 9:35:35 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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