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Dems lack Sanders vote on budget deal
The Hill ^ | December 16, 2013 | Erik Wasson

Posted on 12/16/2013 9:47:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has not yet committed to supporting the new House-Senate budget deal, which could prove problematic for those looking to lock down 60 votes for the measure.

Last week Sanders issued a statement praising the deal for not cutting entitlement benefits like Medicare and Social Security, but as of Monday he has not said he would support a cloture vote on the deal, according to an aide.

The budget deal will need 60 yays when the votes to cut off debate comes up on Tuesday.

Democratic leaders expect they will get all 53 Democrats on board, according to a leadership aide, although Sens. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) and Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) have not publicly committed to the bill.

Sen. Angus King (I-Maine) praised the deal last week.

Five Republicans, Sens. Ron Johnson (Wis.), Richard Burr (N.C.), John McCain (Ariz.), Jeff Flake (Ariz.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine.), have said they will vote to end debate.

But Sanders, who caucuses with Democrats, could still prove crucial for getting to 60 votes.

An aide said that the liberal member is angry that Congress is set to adjourn for the year without extending unemployment insurance benefits that expire Dec. 28.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has promised to deal with jobless benefits in January, and some Democrats have talked about using farm bill savings to foot the $25 billion bill.

The budget deal is must-pass legislation, and there may be little leverage Democrats can use in January to renew the UI benefits.

Any pressure Sanders can exert could quickly evaporate if more Republicans get on board with cloture. Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) appeared open to ending debate even if he is against the policy in the bill.

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is calling GOP members urging them to vote for the deal, which passed the House 332 to 94.

“Chairman Ryan remains hard at work to cut spending in a smarter way. He is confident the Senate will build on the overwhelming vote in the House and approve the agreement,” spokesman William Allison said Monday.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
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What is his price?
1 posted on 12/16/2013 9:47:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/193150-budget-deal-includes-secret-reward-for-senate-dems

December 15, 2013, 04:00 pm

“The two-year budget deal approved by the House has hidden political benefits for Senate Democrats, Republicans charge.

Because it sets a top-line budget number for 2015, Democrats won’t have to write and pass a budget resolution in the midterm election year.

That means vulnerable Democrats like Sens. Mark Pryor (Ark.), Mark Begich (Alaska), Kay Hagen (N.C.) and Mary Landrieu (La.) won’t have to take tough votes as part of a budget vote-o-rama.

Republicans are unhappy, as they believe the tough votes would have made it easier to defeat those candidates next fall and take control off the Senate in 2015. With ObamaCare’s difficult rollout, forcing members to vote on many aspects of the healthcare law would be especially appealing.

The Senate is expected to vote on the budget deal on Tuesday.

Until this spring, when the Senate approved its first budget resolution in four years, Senate Democrats had repeatedly avoided passing a budget in part because of the problems it would have created for vulnerable members.

In two of the years in which the Senate failed to pass a budget, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) argued budget caps in the 2011 Budget Control Act law meant no resolution was legally necessary.

Republicans said Reid was wrong then, and he’d be wrong now if he used the new bill to avoid a budget vote.

“Yes, we should do a budget every year, and the Budget Control Act was used as an excuse and it was a poor excuse,” Senate Budget Committee ranking member Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) told The Hill on Friday. “It seems to me it would be the same with this.”

At this point, Democrats aren’t committing to doing a new budget.

Eli Zupnick, a spokesman for Senate Budget Committee Chairman Patty Murray (D-Wash.), said she “certainty plans to continue the budget process next year and hopes that Democrats and Republicans could build on the bipartisan work done in the budget conference.”

“One of the benefits of this bipartisan budget deal is that Congress can move away from the constant crises and return to regular order,” he added. “Right now she is focusing on passing this budget deal. Once that’s, done she will work with other members of the committee on the path forward for the FY15 budget.”

A source argued that the deal allows the 12 appropriations bills for 2015 to move forward, and that would open up the chance for tough votes on the floor.

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), at this stage, is committing to doing a budget resolution, his office said, even though it would likely put his conference on record again supporting controversial cuts to Medicare in an election year.

When Senate Democrats brought this year’s budget to the floor, Republicans offered hundreds of amendments. Many of them were controversial and were meant to force Democrats into tough votes, such as backing tax increases.

Four vulnerable Democrats — Pryor, Hagan, Begich and Sen. Max Baucus (Mont.), who decided against running for reelection — opposed the overall budget, which had nearly $1 trillion in new tax revenue. It squeaked through in a 50-49 vote.

Sessions said the budget is a unique opportunity because the majority leader cannot use a procedural tactic known as filling the amendment tree to block amendments.

“It’s the only time in the entire legislative process by which individual senators can get a vote on an amendment they care about because of this unprecedented filling of the tree keeps anybody from getting an amendment,” he said.

Sessions is also unhappy about another aspect of this year’s budget deal.

It would suspend a procedural point of order in the Senate against using revenue increases to offset new spending in the coming fiscal year.

That point of order has been used several times recently by Republicans to stop revenue-raising legislation.

Defenders of the deal argue that Republicans could still use the filibuster against a tax increase, though they acknowledge the point of order has been weakened in the deal.”


2 posted on 12/16/2013 9:51:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What is his price?

Sanders may have a price.

But it is also apparent that Republicans McCain, Flake, Collins, Burr and Johnson can be had for nothing...

3 posted on 12/16/2013 9:53:15 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This would be his FIRST key vote since Sanders announced he might run for the WH in 2016.

So now we can expect to hear Reid blowing up and blaming those who are opposed before they get the details? ( snark)

4 posted on 12/16/2013 9:55:11 AM PST by ken5050 (I still miss Howlin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No unemployment comp, no food stamps, no deal.

This compromise violates his socialist principles,

HAHA


5 posted on 12/16/2013 9:57:46 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Federal politicians today ask: “What can I do to control everybody to think and act they way that I do?”

Federal politicians today seldom ask: “What is best for America?”

Small-minded Federal Politicians tend to work on problems that their tiny brains can handle, such as light bulb control, and ignore huge problems, such as how to live within one’s means.

Running on “pocketbook” ideas, such as lightbulbs, Obamacare, National Debt increases, etc., etc. will leave “both” political political parties exposed to voter wrath, IF the voters can be convinced that Federal politicians in “both” political parties must be held accountable for their actions and inactions.

IMHO, that is a long way off, as political party loyalty is very strong today in our politically polarized America, where the dominant idea of the voter is: “Everything would be wonderful if only the OTHER political party would just agree with MY political party.”


6 posted on 12/16/2013 10:01:02 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

” - - - Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) signaled that Republicans would not raise the debt ceiling next year without some sort of concessions from Democrats - - - “

The key cave-in word in the above quote is the word “without.”

If without is removed, and the qualifying following dependent phrase, the statement becomes: “ - - - Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) signaled that Republicans would not raise the debt ceiling next year.”

Thus, Ryan has “signaled” that he is working a con on his loyal, and very gullible voters.

If the word “signaled” is replaced by “stated,” then we have a statement worthy of a true Federal Republican Politician: “ - - - Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) stated that Republicans would not raise the debt ceiling next year.”

This is a good object lesson for us Conservatives to consider at how eager the current RINO Establishment leadership is to surrender, cave-in or otherwise grovel at the feet of their betters (the Marxist Democrats).

Always willing to avoid a knock-down, drag out battle such as the 2012 Reid-Obama Controlled Partial Government shutdown, the Federal Congressional RINO Establishment continues to cave in to the loudest voices in Marxist Obama Administration, the Marxist Reid’s Senate, and the Leftstream Media.

Ryan’s double con is working as long as we Conservatives allow his Con to go un-noticed.

Ryan is depending on us to stay a Silent Majority.


7 posted on 12/16/2013 10:01:56 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ron Johnson is the leadership representative, signaling support, since McConnell and Cornyn are up for reelection and are pretending to be conservative.

This is how things are done.


8 posted on 12/16/2013 10:03:08 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: okie01

Sanders price would be “a $15 minimum wage” or “single payer for all.” Warped though they may be, he does have his principles, and is pretty open about them.


9 posted on 12/16/2013 10:05:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cotton1706; All

“.....The current dynamic in the Senate as it relates to the Ryan-Murray whip count represents the consummate opportunity for leadership from the top. Democrats have not fully secured 60 votes to pass this awful deal. If McConnell and Cornyn really felt the way we do about this bill, they would launch a counter-whip operation to convince members on the fence to vote no. Unfortunately, they have reverted to the ‘hope yes, vote no’ mode. They really want the bill to pass, but they are too scared of their primary challengers. Consequently, they are sitting back and allowing Democrats to pick off members of their conference one-by-one.....”

http://www.redstate.com/2013/12/16/hope-yes-vote-no-is-not-a-winning-equation/


10 posted on 12/16/2013 10:12:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Extension of unemployment I assume.


11 posted on 12/16/2013 10:14:29 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It needs 60 votes.?

How about 51, depending on how bad crazy Harry wants it.


12 posted on 12/16/2013 10:42:50 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

His youth jobs amendment was the price for amnesty.

He voted against the Bush amnesty and made the same talking points as Jeff Sessions.


13 posted on 12/16/2013 8:23:00 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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