Posted on 02/26/2014 4:06:00 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
We critics of modern society tend to run into a problem very similar to the one you encounter when you go to a bar with 27 different beers on tap.
Sometimes, we just dont know where to begin.
Thats how I feel when I read about the progressives working themselves into a lather over that religious freedom bill in Arizona. The legislation simply solidifies a business owners right to act according to his or her religious beliefs (I say further solidifies because the First Amendment already covers this ground pretty thoroughly). News outlets like CNN, engaging in blatant editorializing (surprise!), refer to it as the anti-gay bill, because part of religious freedom is the right to not participate in activities which you find mortally sinful.
Its not that business owners want to refuse service to gays simply because theyre gay; its that some business owners particularly people who work in the wedding industry dont want to be forced to employ their talents in service of something that defies their deeply held religious convictions.
This shouldnt be an issue, but it is, because some gays in some states have specifically and maliciously targeted religious florists, bakers, and photographers, so that they can put these innocent people in a compromising position, and then run to the media and the courts when GASP! Christians decide to follow the dictates of Christianity.
Yet, the cases that sparked this law are hardly discussed. The progressive mob claims that this legislation is about shoving gays to the back of the bus and making them drink out of separate fountains. George Takei echoed the sentiments of many when he likened the Arizona bill to Jim Crow.
And here we arrive at my quandary. There are so many lies being told about this bill; so many ridiculous and offensive exaggerations; so many untruths, half-truths, and truth-omissions; so many dishonest tactics at play, that Im utterly overwhelmed by it all. The propagandists are shouting from all around me, and I cant engage them from every side at once.
If I had the time, Id specifically address the continued comparisons drawn between the historical plight of blacks in America and the imagined plight of gays in present day. Id point out how this is much like comparing a stubbed toe to the Holocaust.
We should remember that blacks were in chains in this country. They were literally treated as less than human. They could be legally murdered and beaten and starved. They were set apart, cast aside, and violently and systematically oppressed.
Not only are gays in a better position than this, but the two scenarios are diametrically opposite. Unlike historical blacks, gays are afforded special legal protections. They are celebrated by the president, Hollywood, pop culture, the media, mainstream culture, and most major corporations. They are hoisted on a pedestal by only the most powerful and influential people in the country.
Black people ought to deliver a sound verbal smackdown to any historically illiterate gasbag who even attempts to paint the slightest equivalency between the suffering of blacks and gays.
But I could write several pages on this aspect alone, and maybe I will soon.
For now, I think I have to do the work that the media, and even many talking head conservatives, wont.
Left wingers are busily constructing fantastical narratives about restaurant owners who wish to prevent gays from eating at their establishments, and cab drivers who want nothing more than to drive right past the gay man hailing him on the sidewalk. Meanwhile, here in the Land of Things That Actually Happen, nobody is proposing, nor condoning, nor anticipating, nor hoping for, nor looking to specifically protect that sort of thing. That sort of thing isnt happening, and it wont happen. Its not an issue. Its not real. Its a fantasy. A lie. A total fabrication.
Instead, some see it necessary and prudent to stop private citizens from using the courts to force other private citizens to actively participate in a particular act which they find morally objectionable. Thats all. And unlike the handwringing about the mystical Dennys manager who might try to use the Bible to justify not serving pancakes to a lesbian this is a real thing that has occurred several times recently.
Examples:
Hands On Originals. The Christian owner of a local t-shirt company declined to produce shirts advertising Lexingtons annual Gay Pride Festival. Hands On Originals had likely made shirts for many gay people in the past. As far as I know, they never asked anyone to fill out a questionnaire about their sexual proclivities before ordering their apparel. In this case, however, the company was being asked to advertise for a gay pride festival. He politely turned down the business and even pointed the organizers to other manufacturers that would make the shirts at the same or better rates. Nobodys rights were infringed upon. Nobody was victimized. Nobody was even inconvenienced.
But the bullies at Kentuckys Gay and Lesbian Services Organization smelled an opportunity. They dragged Hands On before the Human Rights Commission and accused them of human rights violations. The HRC sided with the gay bullies. So did Lexingtons mayor. Lexingtons mayor is openly gay, by the way. But Im sure that had nothing to do with his opinion on the matter.
Masterpiece Cake Shop. The Christian owner of a Colorado bakery has been forced by a judge to bake cakes for gay weddings, after declining the business 0f two gay men who wanted him to make a cake for their same sex nuptials. The baker didnt refuse them because theyre gay. In fact, he specifically said: Ill make you birthday cakes, shower cakes, sell you cookies and brownies, I just dont make cakes for same-sex weddings.
He had a problem with the activity itself, not the people participating in it. But the gay couple, instead of respecting the mans beliefs, decided to whine to the ACLU. Eventually a lawsuit was filed, and the couple complained in court of being dehumanized.
DEHUMANIZED. Because some guy wouldnt make a cake for their wedding. Dehumanized.
Unborn babies butchered in abortion mills? Sorry, not dehumanizing. One bakery in the entire country decides not to make dessert for a gay wedding? DEHUMANIZING.
Makes sense, right?
Elane Photography. A New Mexico judge ruled that a small photography company in the state is not allowed to decide which weddings they will photograph and which weddings they wont photograph. He compelled the Christian photographers who own the business to work gay weddings, despite their religious convictions.
This ruling came after Elane Huguenin politely declined to photograph a lesbian wedding back in 2006. As Huguenin explained: they will gladly serve gays and lesbiansby, for example, providing them with portrait photographywhenever doing so would not require them to create expression conveying messages that conflict with their religious beliefs.
But this wasnt good enough. Even though the lesbian customers promptly found a different photographer who charged better rates, they still took the matter to the courts.
Arlenes Flowers and Gifts. A florist in Washington state was sued after she decided not to provide flowers for a gay wedding. In this case, even the customers admit that the business owner had served them many times over ten years. If she wanted to refuse service to gays, she would have already. But it wasnt the gay men she had a problem with it was the gay wedding. Of course this explanation, reasonable as it might be, wasnt sufficient.
She was dragged to court. The lawsuit, I believe, is still ongoing.
In none of these cases did the business owner forgo service to a gay person out of some kind of disgust or animosity towards gays. They simply wished to take no part in a gay wedding. To call this discrimination against gays is to make no distinction between the person of a homosexual and the activity of a homosexual.
Its absolutely nonsensical. It also, again, makes any comparison to Jim Crow laws seem insane. Blacks were denied basic services because they were black not because of their activity.
The gay people in these cases are asking Christians to specifically participate in a morally objectionable act. You can tell me that gay weddings are not morally objectionable, but that isnt up to you. Thats your belief. This is their belief. In America, we are supposed to be free to live according to our convictions. We can only be stopped from living our convictions if our convictions call us to do harm to another. Were any of these gay couples harmed by having to go back to Google and find any of a thousand other options?
Perhaps their feelings were hurt. Fine. Are we saying that we have no right to do something if it might hurt someones feelings? Are we prepared to take that logic to its fullest extent?
Put differently, to tell a Christian that they must provide services to a gay wedding because thats what a gay person wants, is to say that one must condone the actions of a gay person in order to affirm the dignity and inherent human worth of a gay person. Now we have, yet once more, provided special legal accommodations to this protected class.
No other group is afforded such privileges. I cant force a Jewish deli to provide me with non kosher meat. I cant force a gay sign company to print me Homosexual sex is a sin banners (Id probably be sued just for making the request). I cant force a Muslim caterer to serve pork. I cant force a pro-choice business to buy ad space on my website. I cant force a Baptist sculptor to carve me a statue of the Virgin Mary.
I cant force a private citizen to involve himself in a thing which he finds abhorrent, objectionable, or sinful.
And you know what? I would never try.
Maybe thats what separates liberty lovers from liberals. For all their talk about minding your business and this doesnt concern you and live and let live, theirs is truly an ideology of compulsion. The free speech and expression of other citizens must be tamed by the whip of their lobbying, legislating, and litigating.
It is, of course, ridiculous to insist that any man or woman has a right to have a cake baked or t-shirt printed. Its equally ridiculous to put the desire and convenience of the would-be cake consumer and t-shirt wearer above the First Amendment rights of the cake maker and t-shirt printer.
But this is tyranny. It doesnt have to make sense.
Make no mistake: this is tyranny. Tyranny is not injured emotions, hurt feelings, and minor inconveniences. Tyranny is the government compelling a man or woman to conform to a dogma or bow to an idol. Tyranny is when you are forced to abandon your beliefs and fall in line.
And tyranny is still tyranny, even when it comes wrapped in tolerance and human rights.
Ask a Lefty if a vegan should be forced to eat meat. Ask a Leftist Jew if he should be forced to urinate on the Torah. Then ask how those instances are any different than forcing a practicing Christian to violate his/her beliefs.
What’s dehumanizing is the modern airport experience.
Christians have no rights in Obama’s AmeriKa. However, we do have the power to withhold our money from the corporations who are strong-arming Gov. Brewer into vetoing the AZ Religious Freedom bill.
No more Apple products for this household, and we are selling our Apple stock today. No more patronage of the hotel and restaurant chains that value their homo-friendly image more than the freedom of small businesses to have freedom in how they run their businesses.
Why stop there?
I should be able to go to a shoe store and order a hamburger.
If they can force a business to accede to homosexual demands under the guise of enforcing anti-discrimination laws, they can force businesses to likewise do things for Nazis, the Klan, Black racists, whatever. All those groups are legal and have “rights” similar to radical homosexual groups. So if you’re a baker and some Nazis want you to bake a cake decorated with swastikas, by the so-called laws of anti-discrimination, you have to bake that cake with the swastikas. Remember, no discrimination.
I wonder what might happen if a member of Westboro Church went to a gay printer demanding “God hates fags” signs.
It some ways this issue seems trivial, but it is arguably the most direct and frontal assault on the Constitution yet....in a long stream of Constitutional offenses.
What keeps Gays from finding a Christian owned Business, one that they know wont do business with them , and try to place a order with them. Once they are refused, the gays will haunt and threaten the business owner until they are either out of business or gives in or are sued?
Sounds like a money maker for lawyers.
What do you mean “what keeps them” from doing that? Pretty much every example he used is just that.
Justifying a false premise as true leads to a false conclusion. Right becomes wrong. Wrong becomes right.
The righteous must stand before it is too late.
How would it be if forced swimming instructors to participate in baptisms?
In the Old Testament God directs that those who engage in homosexual activity were to be killed. This is why. The perversion spreads and destroys everything it touches.
While we can't just do that today I will admit that I pray almost daily for them to be chnaged, delivered, and saved from this evil lifestyle, or killed before they can drag anyone else into hell with them.
Because of the continuing actions of these people (such as your cousin) who actively seek to destroy this country and our way of life, it's getting harder and harder to not just skip to the end and pray for God to just kill them.
Yes, the militants know where their interests lie and exploit every opportunity to further their goals. But they alone wouldn’t be capable of such tactics if it weren’t for the full cooperation of, and maybe even direction from, other more powerful forces—the media, liberal/feminist coalitions, some religious groups, academe, etc. This, like so many other initially unpopular liberal movements, has been choreographed right from the beginning.
> Ask a Lefty if a vegan should be forced to eat meat. Ask a Leftist Jew if he should be forced to urinate on the Torah. Then ask how those instances are any different than forcing a practicing Christian to violate his/her beliefs.
Excellent examples...: )
> My militant lesbian cousin does it all the time. She’s not happy unless she’s outraged. Now that she’s legally “married” in Minnesota she and her partner are considering moving to a state where gay marriage is illegal so they can continue the jihad.
Speaking of that my wife was contacted by a militant / LGBT / Occupy activist lesbian completely out of the blue on FB by someone who was a friend of a friend. The lesbian made some extremely nasty statements because my wife has bible verses on her own FB page and its obvious she’ a Christian. My wife never responded in kind but basically responded to her comments a few times in a nice and gentle manner never letting her feathers get ruffled. The lesbian only stopped after my wife said she would pray for her. I visited the gal’s page and found so much pro-Obama and gay pride I couldn’t take it for very long. It was like walking into a field that’s infested with radiation without a radiation suit. The gal was obviously very mentally disturbed (as are the others I’ve come across and I doubt all that came from having to keep it in the closet for years).
Nothing makes my cousin angrier than refusing to acknowledge that she’s a lesbian.
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