Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

A Revisionist Muslim History of America (Greenfield)
Sultan Knish blog ^ | Monday, February 16, 2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 02/16/2015 8:21:36 PM PST by Louis Foxwell

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-23 next last

Sultan Knish/Daniel Greenfield Ping List notification of new articles.

FReepmail or drop me a comment to get on or off the Sultan Knish ping list. I highly recommend an occasional look at the Sultan Knish blog. It is a rich source of materials, links and more from one of the preeminent writers of our age.

We are uniquely privileged to be able to enjoy DG from our perch at FR.
Lou

1 posted on 02/16/2015 8:21:36 PM PST by Louis Foxwell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: daisy mae for the usa; AdvisorB; wizardoz; free-in-nyc; Vendome; Georgia Girl 2; blaveda; ...

2 posted on 02/16/2015 8:22:25 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

This is just another example how Islamic culture crumbles when forced to confront the reality of Western civilization and modernity. Islam is simply not compatible with the scientific and social advances, values and practices of the West. They confabulate and become violent, but they don’t produce.


3 posted on 02/16/2015 8:28:01 PM PST by allendale
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

The yellow muckraking of the NYT is notorious among the educated. Progressive illiterati not so much.


4 posted on 02/16/2015 8:30:55 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

Truth is that muzzies have never contributed much of anything.

This is from 2006:

Comparison of Arab and Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

6 - From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims which are 20% of the world’s population (2 out of every 10 people)*, **

165 - From a pool of 12 million Jews which are 0.2% of the World’s Population (2 out of every 1,000 people)

*this includes Yasser Arafat, a terrorist, who was awarded the prize.
** barack Hussein Obama winning one could possibly be included with the muzzies. :>(


5 posted on 02/16/2015 8:35:11 PM PST by boycott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: boycott

The Nobel Peace Prize has come to be relatively meaningless, as many of the recent recipients have ANYTHING but “peace” on their minds as they go about fomenting unrest and destruction around the planet. Some were not effective in bringing peace in any meaningful manner, and others were outright frauds, and the prize was awarded in collusion with the fraud.


6 posted on 02/16/2015 8:50:11 PM PST by alloysteel (It isn't science, it's law. Rational thought does not apply.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

Perhaps Muslims really were here before the arrival of Columbus. If so they apparently killed themselves off before they made any lasting impression.


7 posted on 02/16/2015 8:55:48 PM PST by clearcarbon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: alloysteel

Agree. The Nobel prize now is just liberal PC silliness now.


8 posted on 02/16/2015 9:07:58 PM PST by boycott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

Estevanico was seen for the charlatan he was and killed by the Zuni. None of his Muslim beliefs survived him.


9 posted on 02/16/2015 9:09:14 PM PST by JimSEA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

I fail to understand the acceptance of the idea that a few random Muslims, or even “thousands” of them, here centuries ago, amounts to a significant presence in America or claim to it . All kinds of people have come through here, with both more significant numbers and a more significant influence.


10 posted on 02/16/2015 9:14:15 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

I guess that’s why they have to kill the infidel kufar, their lies won’t stand unless we are are all dead.


11 posted on 02/16/2015 9:18:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

I had heard about these fellows as a history major in college but they were presented as sly rogues. I guess the PC police have cleaned them up.


12 posted on 02/17/2015 4:25:37 AM PST by arthurus (it's true!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

13 posted on 02/17/2015 4:27:15 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: allendale

Islam spreads violently when Islam has the resources to support jihad. Those resources always come from outside of the Moslem world because Moslem societies are subsistence societies. There is no incentive for the population to produce more than enough to live from day to day. The sultan/bey/emir/dey expropriates anything they produce above that which is sufficient to not starve. Raiding and conquest provided the wherewithal for jihad in past times. Oil money and foreign aid fuel it now.


14 posted on 02/17/2015 4:29:59 AM PST by arthurus (it's true!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: boycott

In the future he will be, perhaps the near future. I kind of expect him to announce that he is Moslem before the end of his Constitutional term of office or just after.


15 posted on 02/17/2015 4:32:21 AM PST by arthurus (it's true!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...may be laughable, Muslim historical revisionism has taken root in academia. It can be found in PBS broadcasts and in a recent New York Times piece. In the New York Times, Peter Manseau asserts that, "There is an inconvenient footnote to the assertion that Islam is anti-American: Muslims arrived here before the founding of the United States -- not just a few, but thousands." The description of Islam as anti-American has nothing to do with the Muslim date of arrival. Instead it refers to Islam's theocratic erosion of the line between mosque and state, its theological doctrines of violence against non-Muslims and women, as well as the belief of a succession of killers crying "Allahu Akbar" that they can achieve a paradise full of virgins by killing Americans. The Muslims who had the biggest influence on the United States were nineteen men who boarded planes on September 11. But Manseau goes on to offer up three examples of Muslims in the early days of the United States... Manseau neglects to mention that Estevanico or Esteban de Dorantes was African, not Arab... Estevanico didn't escape his masters. He set out as a scout for them. He did disobey them by resuming a faith healing routine that began during an earlier journey... Estevanico pretended to be a shaman, gathered followers, including a harem, and demanded turquoise and women from the local Indians in exchange for magical healing... Eventually he reached the Zuni who killed him for, in some accounts, wearing offensive shamanic clothing from other tribes or for demanding women from them... Black nationalists tried to make a hero out of Estevanico, but he makes a remarkably poor hero... Manseau tries to put the best face possible on his history but deceives readers in much the same way that his hero deceived the native population... "The best known Muslim to pass through the port at New Orleans was Abdul-Rahman Ibrahim ibn Sori, a prince in his homeland whose plight drew wide attention. As one newspaper account noted, he had read the Bible and admired its precepts, but added, 'His principal objections are that Christians do not follow them,'" Manseau writes... The so-called Prince Abdul Rahman Ibrahima Sori has been a major figure in Muslim revisionist history. He appeared in a PBS documentary which was targeted to black audiences. Unfortunately for them, Abdul Rahman was actually a racist who boasted that "not a drop of Negro blood runs in his veins. He places the Negro on a scale of being infinitely below the Moor." ...The parallel with Estevanico's abuse of the native population is striking... But Manseau goes on. "Among the enslaved Muslims in North Carolina was a religious teacher named Omar ibn Said. Recaptured in 1810 after running away from a cruel master he called a kafir (an infidel), he became known for inscribing the walls of his jail cell with Arabic script. He wrote an account of his life in 1831, describing how in freedom he had loved to read the Quran, but in slavery his owners had converted him to Christianity." Manseau fails to mention that "Omar was regularly willing and able to reassure all visiting Christians that he was a true convert as he often wrote in Arabic what he called 'The Lord's Prayer' and the Twenty-Third Psalm." Or "Prince Moro's" eager wish that "Mohamedans may receive the gospel." Not to mention Omar's autobiography in which he wrote that, "When I was a Mohammedan I prayed thus… But now I pray "Our Father", etc., in the words of our Lord Jesus the Messiah." Manseau's description of Omar's autobiography is blatantly dishonest. As with Estevanico and Abdul Rahman, he has to leave out basic facts of the lives of these "Muslims" to accommodate his agenda. But Manseau is following in the footsteps of other revisionist historians who insisted that Omar's copying of material from the Koran in an Arabic he had mostly forgotten proved his commitment to Islam.

16 posted on 02/17/2015 4:58:35 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

17 posted on 02/17/2015 5:02:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

Well, you’ve got to acknowledge one significant impact of muslims on American history — They were singularly responsible for the establishment of the US Marine Corps.


18 posted on 02/17/2015 5:31:42 AM PST by Bob (Violence in islam? That's not a bug; it's a feature.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: allendale
This is just another example how Islamic culture crumbles when forced to confront the reality of Western civilization and modernity. Islam is simply not compatible with the scientific and social advances, values and practices of the West. They confabulate and become violent, but they don’t produce.

That also neatly describes the average progressive...

19 posted on 02/17/2015 5:58:07 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Louis Foxwell

Maybe all that intermarriage among first cousins has created a large population of stupid people.

This kind of delusion is common among the ‘less smart’ racial groups.


20 posted on 02/17/2015 7:52:06 AM PST by GOPJ (If you can't get on the high horse for men burned alive and children raped, what's the horse for?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-23 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson