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1 posted on 06/17/2015 10:05:40 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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If they rule in favor of the Constitution, the entire system will spiral into chaos overnight. The Feds will be ready to save the day, with single payer. Watch.


2 posted on 06/17/2015 10:07:37 AM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are you going to do about it?)
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I will believe it when I see it. I truly feel the court is bought and paid for either through funds or blackmail.


3 posted on 06/17/2015 10:11:16 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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If they don’t find for King then word have NO meaning.


5 posted on 06/17/2015 10:12:38 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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I am far more worried now than with their last Obamacare ruling. I cannot imagine an outcome that (1) is legitimate, and (2) the republican elite will not sabotage.


15 posted on 06/17/2015 10:25:33 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Will the Supreme Court deliver one final, unconstitutional ObamaCare ruling?

Does the ursine omnivore defacate in the arbor?

16 posted on 06/17/2015 10:27:21 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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Does Valerie Jarrett have a stack of files on John Roberts?


18 posted on 06/17/2015 10:48:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Remove the Supreme Court and All Politicians exception from Obamacare and see how fast they KILL or FIX it


19 posted on 06/17/2015 10:50:53 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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Don’t underestimate them. I think they have time to issue at least two, and maybe THREE more unconstitutional ObamaCare rulings before his term is up.


20 posted on 06/17/2015 10:53:51 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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‘The Fix’ is (was) in.

Next question.


21 posted on 06/17/2015 10:56:56 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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From the Court site:
“The Supreme Court has added a non-argument session for the announcement of opinions on Thursday, June 18, 2015, at 10 a.m.”
So tomorrow may be a big day come 10:00 eastern daylight time.


24 posted on 06/17/2015 11:04:58 AM PDT by KC Burke (Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam)
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The issue before the Court is a Federal question, as it involves a federal statute. It is not a Constitutional Question. The Court already wrongly found Obamacare, as constructed, to be Constitutional.(a tax)

I predict it will find in a 6-3 vote that the statute is ambiguous, but under agency principles and the Cheveron doctrine, the IRS “interpretation” of the applicable provisions is consistent with the “intent” of Congress, and thus deserving of deference. (it could be 5-4, but I will go with 6-3 — Kennedy and Roberts joining)

I disagree with that outcome, but that is my guess.


25 posted on 06/17/2015 11:09:25 AM PDT by Iron Eagle
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Anything you want, absolutely anything, I'll make sure you get it.

29 posted on 06/17/2015 11:40:02 AM PDT by JPG (What's the difference between the Rats and the GOPe? Nothing.)
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The die is cast either way . . .


30 posted on 06/17/2015 1:16:25 PM PDT by pilipo (We are not free.)
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As mentioned in related threads, the Obamacare insurance mandate is just one of the reasons that Obamacare is unconstitutional.

More specifically, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified in broad terms that insurance policies are a contract, not commerce. Congress therefore has no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance, regardless if the parties agreeing to the contract belong to different states.

”4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce [emphasis added] within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract of indemnity against loss.” — Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)

And here are excerpts from other case opinions which Obama’s activist justices wrongly ignored when they gave the green light to Obamacare, these excerpts clearly indicating that the states have never delegated to corrupt Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate healthcare purposes.

The reason that Obamacare was irresponsibly signed into law is this imo. As a consequence of the ill-conceived 17th Amendment, the corrupt Senate did not do its job to kill the bill that established Obamacare, the bill wrongly stealing the unique, 10th Amendment-protected powers of the states to establish their own healthcare programs, RomneyCare an example.

And not only did the Senate wrongly pass unconstitutional Obamacare, but the Senate then confirms activist justices who declare unconstitutional laws like Obamacare to be constitutional.

What a racket!

And corrupt presidents and justices don’t have to worry about getting impeached by the House because the corrupt Senate is not going to lift a finger to remove them from office.

The 17th Amendment needs to disappear and corrupt senators, a lawless president and activist justices along with it.

31 posted on 06/17/2015 1:33:00 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Fox news: On Fox News this afternoon, the judge consultant, a regular on Fox—I forgot his name-—said that he believed that the Supreme Court would allow the subsidies, which means that, sadly, the Court will agree with Obama.
32 posted on 06/17/2015 1:44:38 PM PDT by john mirse
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