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To: RIghtwardHo

Read the article. If the Senate simply declares the agreement to be a treaty and holds a ratification vote 34 Senators voting against deny ratification. The problem is not the ‘Rats, but the GOP leadership who won’t declare that it’s a treaty and hold a ratification vote.


15 posted on 09/07/2015 8:21:38 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The_Reader_David

Ah. Good point. And I will admit I am not 100% (not at all my area of expertise) on this one but i THINK it is the Executive Branch decides if it is a Treaty and that’s how it is submitted. The Executive makes it clear to the other Party9ies) what it is negotiating as it will not only have a different legal effect her but as it pertains to International Law. I don’t think the Senate can then decide “this is a Treaty”.

Some time ago I posted a law review article that said as much. Thought I bookmarked it but I can’t find it now. I’ll see if I can.


23 posted on 09/07/2015 9:24:18 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: The_Reader_David

Oh. And I agree with you on the GOPe as to their inability to stand up for ... anything. I’m just not sure they can do this legally.


24 posted on 09/07/2015 9:24:59 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: The_Reader_David

This WSJ Article doesn’t really give any legal analysis but it’s a place to start. Just thought you might find it interesting. Still hunting for that Law Review article which had some nice citations.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/03/10/treaties-vs-executive-agreements-when-does-congress-get-a-vote/


25 posted on 09/07/2015 9:29:07 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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