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To: inpajamas

We either have a constitution or we don’t. Electing Cruz means we don’t.


31 posted on 01/20/2016 10:55:10 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

“...We either have a constitution or we don’t. Electing Cruz means we don’t...”

Just what do you mean by “Constitutional”? The Founder’s? 0bama’s? Somewhere in between?

Do you mean the one in the history books that *we* have ignored for so long because it didn’t suit us? For just one example where we are ignoring it: Do you support any candidate that pledges to extract taxes from folks and then give that money to businesses in order to buy their votes — is that in the Founders’ Constitution? Why can’t that business sink or swim on it’s own in the marketplace? Do we need to list all the fed agencies/offices and see if we think the founders would approve of each ones existence? Whether they are *needed* or not is beside the point. If unapproved, it’s left to the states or the people to implement if they decide they are needed and then you and I can pick which state we prefer to live in.

Folks need to stop and think about how far we have strayed off the constitutional path and consider that without constitutional conservatism, there is no possibility of getting back on that path. I truly, fully believe that there is no other political philosophy that would even point us in the right direction. Not the GOPe’s, the Dems, the Greens — none other. And I have *no* idea what philosophy Trump is advocating this week. All I can say is that it probably differs from last week by small part or large. Tell me what audience he is in front of and I’ll try to take a guess at what he’s saying.


80 posted on 01/20/2016 11:55:49 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: jpsb
"We have a Constitution or we don't"

We already don't. Have not you noticed? You have been made to think we still do.

94 posted on 01/20/2016 12:51:17 PM PST by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: jpsb
No, if your theory (as to requirements for NBC status) held water, it would have been the election of Obozo that established the precedent. Fortunately, for our current purposes, wherever Obozo or Cruz were born, they were born to mothers who were NBCs and passed that status to their respective sons. The theory and the constitution applies to everyone or no one. Electing Cruz (and Obozo before him) simply means that your opinion as to NBC is NOT shared by the public or by a very substantial body of legal scholarship and by the courts which have uniformly refused to agree with you.

Familiarize yourself with Rule 11 of the federal trial courts which provides for substantial monetary punishment of anyone filing what are determined to be :frivolous" legal actions in those courts. After all the endless nonsensical attacks on Obozo's eligibility despite his Comrade Mama's unquestioned citizenship, challenges to Cruz are frivolous and fall within the rule. The only difference was that Obozo never conceded the irrelevant claim that he was born in Kenya and that Cruz makes no pretense to jus solis as being born other than in Canada.

100 posted on 01/20/2016 1:12:31 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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