Posted on 02/24/2016 5:57:35 AM PST by Nextrush
Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, who went in to witness the end of the protest at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and defends those arrested there as part of the Coalition of Western States is an upfront supporter of Senator Ted Cruz for the GOP presidential nomination.
"The Guardian" from the United Kingdom has published a story noting Assemblywoman Fiore is part of the Cruz leadership team in Nevada. They quote her as saying: "Ted Cruz is the only candidate talking about giving lands back to the state where they belong."
Also on Cruz's Nevada leadership team, Assemblyman John Moore, who said that he believed LaVoy Finicum was 'murdered' in an FBI led operation last month. Moore told "The Guardian" how he feels about the Bundy family and the federal prosection of them over the Oregon protest and the standoff as Cliven Bundy's Nevada ranch in 2014.
"I know Cliven, Ammon and Ryan. To me this purely political prosecution. The federal government...has an agenda, and they're using the Bundy's as another way to get more land."
Ted Cruz called for the protest to end after it began last month, but Nevada Assemblyman John Wheeler spoke for the campaign and told "The Guardian".
"Ted Cruz is a law and order guy. You follow the law. If you don't like the law, you have the power to change it. The one thing Oregon and Bunkerville did is bring it to the front and get the conversation started."
"The Guardian" also quotes Donald Trump as opposing the transfer of federal land to state control.
Trump is quoted this way.
"I don't like the idea (of local control of federal land) because I want to keep the lands great, and you don't know what the state is going to do."
According to the "OregonLive" website, Trump is the only Republican candidate for president who opposes federal land being returned to state control. The blog notes that Trump made his comments to "Field and Stream" magazine last month and added some more comments from Trump in opposition to state control of federal land: "I mean, are they going to sell it if they get into a little bit of trouble? And I don't think it's something that should be sold. We have to be great stewards of the land."
"The Guardian" spoke with Cliven Bundy's wife Carol. She said regarding Cruz's recent statement (TV ad):
"I wasn't convinced too much. What he said is good, but I want a little more. I want to know how he is going to do it.
She also told "The Guardian"
"Nobody wants to take a stand on this, and I think that's sad."
Perhaps Ted Cruz and his upfront supporters like Glenn Beck, who used his microphone to defend the life of Terri Schiavo, could be a little more upfront about the jailing of the Hammonds and other issues related to the federal abuse of land in the West.
Perhaps Beck could stop at the jail in Portland to visit Ammon Bundy and the other prisoners and perhaps Ted Cruz could go to Harney County, Oregon and visit the Hammond family members and maybe visit the federal prison in California to see Steven and Dwight Hammond.
The little step of producing a television spot criticizing federal control of land did help Cruz win votes in rural areas of Nevada last night with a first place finish in Elko and Lincoln counties.
There are more farmer and rancher states of the West in play in the weeks ahead like Idaho on March 8th and Arizona and Utah on March 22nd, even Oregon has a mail in primary on May 17th. Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Washington and northern California also play into this issue as well.
Cruz needs to notch up his concern and focus on matters like releasing the Hammond's from their unjust imprisonment.
As for Mr. Trump, his views seem very disappointing indeed and reduce any confidence I have in him to make things better in this country.
I want to see Cruz step up things up on this issue. The results in Nevada show he picked up some votes in the rural areas but he could have picked up more with a stronger position than the one in his television ad.
What is Ted's position on the Hammond's imprisonment and LaVoy's killing?
Two choices: Rule of Law, or Rule of Man.
Links to “The Guardian” article.
Since many of these were federal lands all along, how could you “give them back” to the states?
Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that they want to take lands away from the American people, to whom they belong, and give them as a handout to a bunch of squatters?
Link to “OregonLive” story:
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/02/ted_cruz_wants_the_cliven_bund.html
Yes, support Cruz. I hope he goes back to the Senate and makes this his number one issue. I hope he works with Trump to make it happen. He isn’t going to win the nomination, and even if he did he isn’t going to win in November.
I thought Trump has made comments in support of the Bundy’s and against Federal land grabs. Saw it here within the last few days. I should have bookmarked the article I suppose, maybe somebody could help me out.
It is wise to win the election before getting involved in certain battles. I think what we are hearing is an exercise in the prudence of timing.
Ted Cruz - The charm of Barry Goldwater and the ethics of Richard Nixon. - GO TRUMP!!!
Guardian is a leftist UK rag that hates Trump.
Trump was quoted out of context, again as leftists are accustomed to doing.
> “I don’t like the idea (of local control of federal land) because I want to keep the lands great, and you don’t know what the state is going to do.”
was followed by “we don’t know what they will do, will they sell it when they get into a little trouble?”
And it is a matter of record that states have been selling land and mineral rights to foreigners that benefit state coffers and yield zero benefits to Americans nor do such transactions strengthen the rights and respect of farmers and ranchers.
Ted Cruz is over-simplifying from a simple constitutional principle and observation that the federal government is too big and all holdings including rights should be disseminated from federal government to state governments. As a result from his simpleton algorithm, it’s easy for him to say “give the federal land to the states”.
But transferring land to states solves nothing unless there are wise state officials full of justice that are willing to do the right thing. But the historical record shows such wisdom among states to be rare.
Donald Trump deals from the viewport of pragmatic reality. He knows states can make it worse. From his business dealings with states he knows how corrupt they can be. So his statement is born out of real experience whereas Ted’s statement is born out of an academic gesture that conforms to his image as a Constitutionalist.
So easy to think and say, fed gov too big, give to states, all will be better and constitutional too.
Way too shallow, too simple. All will not be better.
The issue is not transferring land to the states, the issue is upholding the rights and traditions of farmers and ranchers, creating economic opportunity for the populace that are in proximity to the lands called into question.
Transferring land to states is not the solution. A better idea is to delegate control to stewardship conservancies that are chartered to associations of farmers and ranchers.
Trump recognizes the real issue and has articulated it:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donald-trump-takes-on-federal-land-control/article/2579978
Sell them. Proceeds to go to retiring the national debt.
One of the objectives of the protest in Oregon last month was the transfer of lands to local control.
The notion of some ‘partnership’ between the federal government and local ranchers and farmers has failed.
Even Congressman Greg Walden, the Paul Ryan supporting Republican who represents the region noted this in a dramatic floor speech to Congress right after the protest began in Harney County last month.
The quotes from Donald Trump were taken from s “Field and Stream” magazine interview.
Liberal Republicans I’ve had to deal with over the years always blame the liberal media for quoting them when they take the liberal position.
There’s plenty of hatred to go around in both mainstream media articles linked here, but it’s not aimed at Trump.
It’s aimed at Ted Cruz with Trump’s comments used to stick it to Ted....
I have seen the F&S interview and I saw that it was followed by Donald warning that states could sell the land and mineral rights. And history shows they do that.
So transferring federal lands to STATES may very well worsen the situation.
And I note you use the term “local control”. Local control doesn’t necessarily mean STATE CONTROL.
Local control can mean stewardship charters to local associations that know the land better than anyone else and who are capable of keeping the land in good shape.
The issue is not to pawn the land from one government entity to another.
The issue is to preserve, strengthen and respect the rights of farmers and ranchers in the region
Donald spelled out the correct version of the issue in the link I gave above. Anti-Trump persons will not read anything that supports Trump. I don’t think you read the link I gave above. Here it is again:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donald-trump-takes-on-federal-land-control/article/2579978
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