MS: Petition to Stop Church Protection Act and Constitutional Carry Fails with 3 Signatures

Gun Watch ^ | 16 April, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Nearly two weeks ago, Ariel Draper started a petition on thepetitionsite.com to push Governor Phillip Bryant to veto Mississippi House Bill 786.  The goal of the petition was to get 1,000 signatures in support.  The petition had 3 signatures when the bill was signed into law today.  The petition used rather incendiary language.  From the petition:

Mississippi House Bill 786 introduces legislation that would grant the following :

To provide that killing a person while acting as a participant of a church or place of worship security team is JUSTIFIABLE homicide ; and for related purposes.

Literally making a "Church Police" legal, allowing a church's "security team" to take it upon themselves to decide whether others live or die, and have legal protection!

If you read HB 786, you find that the reality is quite a bit less dramatic.  The bill enables churches to appoint volunteers for church security.  Those volunteers have to be appointed in writing, and have to have training.  The law gives them the same protection that private security guards have.  That is considerably different than the implication that a church security team can execute people at will.  If you parse the petition carefully, you may note that everyone in society

"take it upon themselves to decide whether others live or die, and have legal protection!"

That is precisely what the use of deadly force in justifiable defense of self and others is.  From the bill:

A church or place of worship may establish a security program that meets the requirements of subsection (2)(b) of this section, and a member of the security program shall be immune from civil liability for any action taken by a member of the security program if the action in question occurs during the reasonable exercise of and within the course and scope of the member's official duties as a member of the security program for the church or place of worship.

The bill goes on to explain what "reasonable" is in depth.

The bill contained two other major changes.  It made Mississippi a "Constitutional" or permitless carry state by adding belt holsters, sheaths, and  shoulder holsters to already generous methods of concealed carry that do not require a permit. From HB 786, as it was sent to Governor Bryant.  Underlined words have been added to the statute by the bill:

(24) * * *  A license * * * under this section is not required for a loaded or unloaded pistol or revolver to be carried upon the person in a sheath, belt holster or shoulder holster or in a purse, handbag, satchel, other similar bag or briefcase or fully enclosed case if the person is not engaged in criminal activity other than a misdemeanor traffic offense, is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a pistol or revolver under state or federal law, and is not in a location prohibited under subsection (13) of this section.

The other major effect of the bill is to provide a mechanism to prevent state resources from being used to enforce any future federal regulation or executive order that infringes on the Second Amendment or the Mississippi Constitution of 1890:

SECTION 5. No federal executive order, agency order, law not enrolled by the United States Congress and signed by the President of the United States, rule, regulation or administrative interpretation of a law or statute issued, enacted or promulgated after July 1, 2016, that violates the United States Constitution or the Mississippi Constitution of 1890 shall be enforced or ordered to be enforced by any official, agent or employee of this state or a political subdivision thereof.

It shows the shallow nature of the opposition to the right to keep and bear arms that this petition was only able to gather three signatures in two weeks.  Presumably, one of those was the author of the petition.

Mississippi now joins nine other "Constitutional" carry states to make 10 total.

That is 20% of all the states in the Union.

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[marktwain]

The bill was very popular in Mississippi. Governor Bryant signed it with a flourish!

[Gamecock]

An online petition fell three signatures short. So what?

[Charles Martel]

Not three signatures short. Three signatures, total.

[Blogatron]

A hippie, his girlfriend, and her sock-puppet.

Epic FAILAGE!

[Gamecock]

Oh!

Even better!

That’s what I get for going to bed after midnight and FReeping early in the morning!

[Charles Martel]

That’s what I get for going to bed after midnight and FReeping early in the morning!

Happens to me pretty frequently, too. :-)

I really like the fact that they had two weeks to gather signatures and it just fell flat. God Bless the Magnolia State!

[NorthMountain]

Nice. Another State goes green. Is that three this year?

[bravo whiskey]

i don’t think you can carry in a church in Louisianan either. you can in Colorado.

[TXnMA]

"An online petition fell three signatures short. So what?"

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You must have gone to a public school that taught the "New Math" or was enslaved by "Common Core" curricula.

Three (3) signatures is 997 short of the 1,000 goal...

[Gamecock]

Thanks for you analysis of my shortcomings.

In reality I didn’t sleep last night and things are a little fuzzy today.

Thanks again!

[TXnMA]

Peace, FRiend; my shot was at the "education system" -- not at you...

Sounds like you are ahead of the game; lost sleep can be made up -- but victimization by today's "education" system is dang-near forever... '-)

I was luckier than you: thunderstorms shut down my satellite ISP connection about 2AM -- and the rain lulled me to sleep by 3 AM.

Apologies for disturbing you!