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VA Hospitals are not Disneyland – It’s time to privatize the VA now!
US Defense Watch ^ | May 24, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 05/24/2016 9:44:00 PM PDT by pboyington

Yesterday, VA Secretary, Robert MacDonald set off a firestorm in the media when he compared long lines at Disneyland to the wait times veterans experience for health care, an analogy that riled veterans groups and lawmakers alike.

MacDonald of all people should know better. He is a graduate of West Point and served with the famous All-American Division, the 82nd Airborne, before out-processing to greener pastures, namely Procter and Gamble, where he rose to CEO of the company before retiring from the private sector.

Apparently, it doesn’t take too long to go from a free enterprise rainmaker to a federal bureaucratic buffoon.

MacDonald was attempting to convey that even though families have to wait in long lines to enter Disneyland, the wait is worth it because you’ll eventually have a Brady Bunch experience of a lifetime with Mickey Mouse.

Unfortunately, for veterans, waiting in line is just the beginning of the VA experience, which is touch and go at best, and crash and burn at worst.

Some of the vets who use the VA system are poor and believe that the VA is their best shot for health care. But, not all are economically downtrodden. For vets, coming to the VA might be their only chance to interact with other vets, in a society that has a hard time relating to military personnel, past and present. Others, particularly amputees, may find that the VA is their only option, as private health care companies will deny claims from injuries incurred in a war zone.

Some of the veterans who use the system are in between jobs and may have lost access to private health care. For others, who are self-employed, Obama Care may be too expensive.

At the Westwood VA in Los Angeles, there are many Vietnam vets who use the facility, people who didn’t have a rich father like Mitt Romney, who got him a job tutoring Mormons in France, to avoid the killing fields of Southeast Asia.

I’ve seen young women who look like they should be in a sorority house, but instead are hobbling around the corridors of the VA with artificial limbs, their natural limbs having been decimated by IEDs in Iraq.

I’ve seen an old man wearing a Bataan Death March Survivor cap, who, when he enters a clinic brings a hush of reverence by other vets, as if the Angel of God himself had just entered the room.

MacDonald’s comments are the latest in a litany of issues and debacles involving the whole VA hospital system; from veterans dying while waiting to see a doctor in Phoenix to cockroaches in the food at the Chicago VA Hospital, the problems seem endless and insurmountable.

While the VA’s main issues seem to emanate from the bureaucrats at the top in Washington and the administrators throughout the country, the staffs and workers at VA hospitals are usually friendly and go out of their way to assist you.

The people at the Westwood VA are one heck of a lot nicer than the snippy snobs that man the phones and desks in Los Angeles doctors’ offices. Unfortunately, as nice as they are at the VA, they still can’t compensate for a system that is overwhelmed and inefficient and dangerous to the patient.

Last year, I walked into the ENT clinic at the Westwood VA. As millions of dollars’ worth of equipment hummed in the background and staff darted in between offices, I was told that they would call me with an appointment and I would be able to come back in 14 days. I walked out, called my private ENT doctor in Los Angeles and his receptionist told me to come over within the hour. My life and death situation; ear wax: the VA couldn’t even handle that and there was no one in the ENT clinic when I walked in, except for one man reading Popular Mechanics.

The other problems VA hospitals have are a lack of continuity. You can visit one clinic that looks like Johns Hopkins and then travel down the hall to another clinic that reminds you of a medical office in 1959 Cuba.

All vets deserve better, a hell of a lot better from a country that they served so selflessly. But, nothing is ever done to fix the endless problems. We’ve watched as VA officials have been fired, demoted and reshuffled like a pack of cards with five aces. Many VA officials are paid well and seemingly don’t care about the people they’re supposed to be helping, the vets.

Vets are finding out that their worst enemy is the member of Congress who never served and therefore doesn’t have a clue to what a vet experiences. The clueless civilians are fully stocked in Congress now, like packages of cheap cookies at Aldi.

In a nutshell, the federal government is incapable of running the VA hospital system and the VA’s internal administrators are incompetent as well. The VA hospitals are nothing more than a really bad HMO on a continual train wreck.

The VA hospitals must be shut down and replaced by private health care for vets. The federal government could mandate a so-called Vets Care that would work the same as Medicare. Veterans would be able to go to any private doctor that they wanted. All they would have to do is show their VA card. The system would function on an income means system. Vets with incomes under a certain level wouldn’t have to pay a dime. Veterans who earn higher incomes would have to fork out minimal copays for doctor’s visits and prescriptions.

This Vets Care system would be more efficient than the broken, disgraceful VA hospital system in place today. Changes are needed, cataclysmic changes to finally fix a system that has failed the nation’s veterans for decades.

It’s high time for the veterans in Congress to get off their collective duffs and finally start the wheels moving to end the VA hospital system and create a private health care system for veterans.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: healthcare; macdonald; va; vets

1 posted on 05/24/2016 9:44:00 PM PDT by pboyington
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To: pboyington

Va secretary needs to be fired and lose his pension. And never be able to work in any govt job anywhere, ever.


2 posted on 05/24/2016 9:58:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: pboyington
I had my first-ever colonoscopy at the Durham VA in 2010. Because I had thirteen polyps, I was supposed to have another test in 2011.

They finally called last week to schedule an appointment.
3 posted on 05/24/2016 10:25:52 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Did Cruz's mama ever register his foreign birth with the US Govt?)
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To: pboyington
Robert MacDonald set off a firestorm in the media when he compared long lines at Disneyland to the wait times veterans experience for health care,
It makes good business sense for Disney, and for that matter Six Flags to pay close attention to wait times at the rides in their parks. It should be a top priority at the VA, and this idiot needs to do the honorable thing (in this sorry excuse for an administration? HA!) and step down for making such a dumbass statement.
4 posted on 05/24/2016 11:53:47 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: pboyington
I'm non service related disabled and have Medicare/Medicaid. I'm also at over 50% hearing loss and was placed on hearing conservation in the Navy 38 years ago.

I needed hearing aids bad and my family bought my first set and they were not suitable. So I began the process of getting into the VA system just for hearing aids of better quality. I already had my own primary care physician I always see several times a year. All I needed from VA was an Audiology work up and hearing aids. It took a year to get to my first appointment with their clinic doctor {required for a VA Audiology Clinic referral} and six more months afterward to have my hearing checked. I would not have even bothered with it but hearing aids are far beyond my means to purchase and my disability is auditory/optical sensory processing related and hearing aids are not covered under Medicare or Medicaid. That was about 6 years ago IIRC. I'm fixing to get a second set of hearing aids next month.

Everyone in the VA healthcare system likely by now has their ID card and it is a photo ID. It seems it would be far more efficient to go ahead and contract private doctors, clinics, and hospitals, to handle things. Doctors in VA Clinics generally do not stay beyond a year or two. Another issue is VA specialist can be 150 miles away. It just seems more practical to contract it.

I worked in a nursing home and we took VA patients on contract and that was back in the early 1990's. So that system has somewhat been in place and needs to be expanded.

5 posted on 05/25/2016 12:18:57 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: pboyington

Well, from my experience they really are a Mickey Mouse operation.


6 posted on 05/25/2016 3:08:22 AM PDT by TonyM
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To: pboyington

Trump will privatize much of government.


7 posted on 05/25/2016 3:11:20 AM PDT by petercooper (All the world's problems are caused by the sandrats, hoodrats, gimmedats, democrats and commiecrats.)
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To: ComputerGuy

Go to Albuquerque. Go to the VA hospital and ask for either of the two Ostomy nurses.

Ask the name of the woman doc that does the ‘importance of colonoscopy’ presentations for them.

Schedule your colonoscopy thru her.

If there is anything there, ask to speak to surgeon Dr. Reuben last.


8 posted on 05/25/2016 3:42:40 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: pboyington

The VA should be part of the Department of War and not run by a bunch of corrupt civilians.
And the Department of Defense needs to get rid of its politically correct title and go back to being the Department of War.


9 posted on 05/25/2016 4:47:37 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
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To: pboyington

I went to the VA hospital in Buffalo one time. What a bunch of rude could care less jerks.
I will NEVER go back there again.


10 posted on 05/25/2016 4:51:18 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
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To: pboyington

We could give veterans a health care card good at any participating healthcare facility....just like Medicare ...for a fraction of the cost of running the VA. My wife’s uncle used the VA for health care services, had to wait weeks for an appointment and drive 60 miles to get service he could have gotten at a local clinic. I was shocked when we visited him at the local VA hospital as it was like going back to the1950s with multi bed wards rather than private rooms and dark and dank facilities that local hospitals had abandoned decades ago.


11 posted on 05/25/2016 8:26:17 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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