And thank you for reading & responding to this in a thoughtful manner. All comments are welcome, but please remember that there maybe those who may be reading this that are not real friendly to us or our causes. So please use the OPSEC Rule. Speak of only generalities & nothing of your very specifics plans or preps or gear.
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Also - I have am looking for some general info - my daughter and son in law live in a very rural (yes - there are some areas still!) section of central New York State. It is also great hunting - deer, turkey, etc.
They have a a roughly 20 acre section of land that they want to sell off that would be perfect for preppers.
Does anyone have any info/advice as to where they might list the property where preppers looking for land would see it?
May I gently suggest, inserting an indentation or double return space for each paragraph would make reading much easier.
“So a lot of the information that is being sent out is saying the Ozarks of Missouri & Arkansas, or maybe the Appalachians.”
We decided on the Appalachians. And I’m so glad I did!
Although it is hard to find anything here in the east that is very rural - even far from city centers and in what you would think is in the middle of nowhere, there are houses. I guess that comes from being civilized for centuries, vs out west.
Careful now, river towns along the Mississippi tend to show up very blue on the electoral maps, for reasons that date back to the steamboat era. There are rural areas that are okay, but do your homework.
It may still be an option to hit Sports Authority closing sales for gear.
Thank you for the post.
Every prepper needs to know how to be expedient. In our nuclear world, with power plants at risk, and the various weapons and devices out there, things could go sideways very quickly for a lot of reasons.
One of the very best references for how to survive a nuclear event with materials commonly available is the book by Cresson Kearny: “Nuclear War Survival Skills.” This MUST be in every prepper’s library.
http://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-Survival-Skills-Cresson-Kearny/dp/0939002027?tag=duckduckgo-d-20
While equipment to survive is minimal, it requires knowledge and skills. This book provides it. If you do not have a copy. Get one now. It is reasonably priced. I think someone told us on a previous thread some time ago that it can even be downloaded free. That may or may not still be the case.
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Joel Skousen has a book written with information and ratings about our country’s states with respect to safety, and gives a lot of knowledge about how to choose a place to go if you are wishing to relocate. He has also written about house construction for your relocation in another book. Both books can be reviewed here:
http://store.infowars.com/search.asp?keyword=Joel+Skousen&search=Search+Products
Bugging means you had better have some place to go.
“Bugging out”? To WHERE??
Be sure you’re on high ground. Close to the Mississippi says flood zone to me.
If you have chickens don’t forget to stock up on laying mash and scratch.
If you have chickens don’t forget to stock up on laying mash and scratch.
Depends on where along the river you’re talking. Don’t forget there’s a major fault line around New Madrid, MO. And I think it’s been about 200 years since its last quake.
I think you’re more likely to find large pieces of rural land for a reasonable price the further north you go.....Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, etc. But then you have to deal with winter-no fun as you get older.
Me personally, I’m looking at getting a house with anywhere from 1/2 to 2 acres in or around a small town and stealth prepping. Lots of small towns around here (Middle TN) have gardens, farmers markets, people hunt & fish, etc. Prepping wouldn’t look out of place. No, wouldn’t have cows, pigs, etc., but I’m just one person. A well-filled pantry and means to grow more, maybe a couple of chickens, a little bit of solar to supplement the grid electric...that would be enough for me.
Well, as you know, Missouri is The Promised Land. LOL I love my state except for the winters, and lack of Texans.
I guess I’d say I am not really a prepper. We just grew up living the way prepper’s do - a way of life. Since storms and electrical outages happen quite often, we always had what we needed to get by. Oil Lamps, Coleman Lanterns, flashlights etc.
Dad, like many liked to hunt and fish. So we had a lot of camping gear, guns, and ammo, etc. Plenty of deer, fishing, squirrels rabbits etc. around here and many people depend already on wild game to supplement their groceries.
Growing up, I spent many days on my Grandparents small 20 acre farm. No indoor plumbing till I was an adult, and then it was only cold water to the kitchen. So we pumped water from the well by hand and hauled it to the house in metal buckets. Used metal dipper to put water into a glass.
Used metal wash basin, tub, or shower can for bathing. Chamber pot at night. Out house during the day. They had a small dairy herd. I learned to milk a cow by hand.
Used to help feed the chickens and gather eggs. Once got flogged by a mean ole rooster. They raised hogs to sell and butchered one for their own use. We drank raw milk fresh from the morning’s milking kept enough for a day or two.
The rest was sold to local dairy. It was placed in clean metal cans with a tight seal. They were on a cart. We pumped water on to burlap bags so they were dripping wet and wrapped them around the cans. The evaporation had a cooling effect. The cart was at the end of the driveway close to the road so the dairy could pick them up, and leave clean empty cans for the next milking.
I stock up more than we used to. I stock up on stuff we eat all the time, and when we use something, replace it when it goes on sale. Winter time is the time to can extra meat that is on sale. That way the kitchen doesn’t get so hot in the summer time.
We have a corner of the basement that could be converted to nuke shelter. Never got around to it. Have some books on such and SAS survival guides. Herbal medicine books etc. So I do some reading on types of disaster and what to do.
If I find an idea that is useful, and I have the money, I do it. Otherwise it goes on a wish list and we save for it. People have budgets. We are prepared for the most frequent and likely events.
We live close to the New Madrid Fault zone. I didn’t know it at the time, or would have modified our home plans. Still we are far enough away, that the house should be fine as is. We began planting fruit trees, berries, etc.-stuff to eat that we don’t have to plant every year.
We have our garden and I can or freeze fruits and veggies. Some things get dehydrated. Refreshing old skills, and learning new ones. Have several months of the LDS food that is in #10 cans good for 20-30 years.
Having a good food supply is important, but so is replacement ability. So we have been learning to grow many new things, and have a list of what we would need to grow to provide a balanced diet, and the heirloom seeds to do it.
We have our own well, and not dependent on city for sewer system. We collect rainwater in barrels and above ground swimming pool to water our garden.
We have portable generators which we have often used during power outages. Enough to run the freezers, refrigerators, tvs, oxygen compressor, and window air conditioners, which we have left over from when the central air went down, and repair man was delayed.
Two fireplaces and enough wood to heat the upstairs all winter. Kerosene heaters for the outdoors area. Sleeping Bags, plenty of blankets. Down stairs doesn’t need more than a couple of electric heaters, and the generators can handle that.
We are saving to get an automatic standby generator, since we are getting older, and it’s less hassle to get stuff going. Also saving and trying to decide on fuel for generators. Reading a lot of info on how to make your own fuel, ethanol converter for gasoline generators.
The way I look at it, beyond 6-12 months storage, best to figure out a way to make it yourself ie replacement options that make you self sufficient. Not dependent on the main supply sources. This may mean going back to real basics, and we have those books, and much of the stuff to do it too.
I surely hope we never have to live in a teepee on our 20 acres north of town. But there’s plenty of trees, and a big creek. There’s an old foundation from a cabin that was there 100 years ago. We have been scouting it for the wild edibles of our region. Will likely plant some more-maybe some paw paw trees to go with the persimmons and walnuts.
There’s an old saying along the lines of the battle plans don’t survive the first round, so to me, planning is good, but being able to change and develop options is good too. So I do what if scenarios, and think about what we have and how it could be used differently to fit the scenario, and if there’s something else needed that we don’t have.
I have also been working on getting more physically fit, but I’m no spring chicken, so I’ll never be as fit and able as a twenty year old. LOL
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I understand people who like places with mild winters but I prefer a place with harsher winters. I know how to keep warm and the weather keeps the rif-raf down.
I know this has been discussed, but I need to buy a water purifier that will let me drink river water even if polluted with the dead.
Is there anything new? Would anyone be good enough to post a recommendation?