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How John Wayne saved the United States Marine Corps
The Coach's Team ^ | 6/5/16 | Susan Frickey

Posted on 06/05/2016 8:36:05 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

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To: john drake

Relax. The “enemies of freedom” wanted to consolidate the Army and Marine Corps because maintaining two separate bureaucracies to fulfill the same basic mission costs us a ton of money.

Jimmy Doolittle was an enemy of freedom? Yeah, right.


21 posted on 06/05/2016 9:38:01 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Oldpuppymax

Harry Truman once said, “No one has a better PR operation than the US Marine Corps.


22 posted on 06/05/2016 9:42:20 AM PDT by Kla Ha Ya
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To: Oldpuppymax

thank you very much for this post. thank God for the great man John Wayne.


23 posted on 06/05/2016 9:43:18 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: bigdaddy45

The Marines were meant to be our quick response units from the very first ,with the Navy providing transport.

The Army for larger and prolonged wars.

Doolittle was an Army Air Corps man,the Air Force didn’t become a separate entity until post WW2.Naturally the Army man wanted the Marines absorbed. The urge to consolidate is strong,despite consolidation NOT being the correct solution to every problem.


24 posted on 06/05/2016 9:59:46 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I am not sure how accurate this is. The Defense act of 1947 pretty much established the force structure. This is when the USAF was created.
The Movie was released in 1949. And the Doolittle board was not focused on reorganizing the force structure, it was nearly solely focused on officer/enlisted relations and was known as a board to sort through GI complaints about service in WWII.

It’s documented that Cates did send someone to ask Wayne to make the film. But the conclusion of the piece here is a little far fetched.


25 posted on 06/05/2016 10:03:48 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Oldpuppymax

Director Allan Dwan went back to the very beginnings of the movie industry. I’d forgotten it was he who helmed “Sands of Iwo Jima.”


26 posted on 06/05/2016 10:16:54 AM PDT by greene66
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To: bigdaddy45

The U.S. Army and U.S. Marines have different doctrines. How the Marine Corps has been used as an occupying force, which is standard for the U.S. Army, since the beginning of GWOT was the decision of our government, not by doctrine.


27 posted on 06/05/2016 10:35:14 AM PDT by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: DesertRhino

You are correct. The fight over the Marine Corps occurred between 1945 and 1947, along with many other turf battles that culminated in the Defense Act of 1947 that preserved the Marine Corps. However, it was essentially reduced to its pre World War II size. The Korean War changed all of that. With the Army was trying to defend South Korea with understrength, untrained draftee occupation troops from Japan, the 1st Marine Division, reinforced by Marine World War II veterans arrived in Korea well equipped, well led, and well overstrength. That proved to be the winning formula and the Marines solidified their popular reputation.

The Chowder Society won the political fight, the Marines who fought in Korea ensured that the Marines would never be threatened with elimination or subject to drastic reductions.

The movie didn’t hurt.


28 posted on 06/05/2016 10:35:51 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t particularly agree with the article. Hollywood might have played a small role in saving the future of the Marine Corps, but we learned that it was actually the taking of Mt. Suribachi that “guaranteed a Marine Corps for the next 500 years”, as said by then SecNav Mr. James Forrestal.


29 posted on 06/05/2016 10:39:08 AM PDT by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: patro

The Army is not big enough to handle their traditional mission by themselves. It will always require the Marine Corps as well. Plus, the services will always argue to include their units in every commitment worldwide.


30 posted on 06/05/2016 10:40:31 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

The Marine Corps does augment the U.S. Army quite well.


31 posted on 06/05/2016 10:42:44 AM PDT by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: centurion316

The Marine Corps does augment the U.S. Army quite well.


32 posted on 06/05/2016 10:42:44 AM PDT by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: Snickering Hound

Wow. Thanks for that


33 posted on 06/05/2016 10:57:42 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: Fai Mao

I’ve always liked John Wayne and saw a lot of his films first run in the old big screen movie houses. Now have a lot of them on DVD. Must watched “The Sands of Iwo Jima” 50 or 60 times.


34 posted on 06/05/2016 10:57:49 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: patro

Both services have worked well together over the past ten years. That was not always true.


35 posted on 06/05/2016 11:04:56 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Snickering Hound
And when he couldn’t get Forrestal to slash and burn with the Navy and Marine budget

Forrestal was an early anti-communist. Therefore, he was defenstrated.

36 posted on 06/05/2016 11:40:05 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Kla Ha Ya

He also said the Marine Corp had a propaganda organization that Joe Stalin would be proud of.


37 posted on 06/05/2016 12:06:17 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Vaquero

Fabulous movie that one.

L


38 posted on 06/05/2016 12:10:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: real saxophonist

Same thing at MCRD San Diego.

Semper Fi.

L


39 posted on 06/05/2016 12:11:28 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: hoosierham

Actually the concept of Marines was to maintain discipline aboard ships of the United States Navy. They provided the Captain of a Naval vessel, a small security force capable of putting down a mutiny. The shipboard marines also schooled the sailors in the use of small arms, guarded the captains quarters, guarded the powder magazines, and small arms lockers. In battle they were used as snipers from the top platforms and were part of boarding parties if required.


40 posted on 06/05/2016 12:11:30 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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