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Why there’s no surge in ammo sales this election year
guns.com ^ | Aug. 17, 2016 | Daniel Terrill

Posted on 08/18/2016 11:30:41 AM PDT by PROCON


In 2008 and 2012 the firearms industry saw a surge in both gun and ammo sales thanks to the presidential election, and while this cycle is no different for gun sales — in fact, this maybe a record year — ammo is a different story.

Mark DeYoung, chief executive officer of Vista Outdoor, a conglomerate of shooting and outdoor brands said consumers just aren’t buying up ammunition like they had in those years. “As you’ll recall, we were out of stock,” he said during a conference call with investors last week.

He thinks consumers built up a vast inventory at home and are still feeding off of it, so the demand isn’t as high. “I personally believe that a lot of consumers over-stocked … pulled that ammo as quick as they could off those retail shelves and took it home and put it in their own basement,” he said.

Touching on gun sales, he said consumers are mostly buying handguns and AR rifles, which none of Vista’s brands manufacture. However, production of ammo for those types of firearms — 9mm and .223 — is at capacity. “If I had more 9mm, I could sell it. If I had more 5.56 and .223, I could sell it,” he said.

For second quarter earnings, Vista reported $342.8 million in sales from the shooting sports, an increase of $10 million from the year before. Vista’s brands falling in that category include gun maker Savage Arms and several ammo makers like Federal Premium, CCI, Blazer, Speer, and American Eagle.

Compared to gun sales, the federal background check system, the industry’s key indicator for sales, showed an increase of 15 percent for total checks in the past four months. According to figures published by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, six months into 2016 has netted 32 percent, or 3.4 million, more checks than 2015 and continuing a pace for the biggest year on record.

Competitor Winchester Ammunition, owned by chemical giant Olin Corp., reported last month an overall decrease in ammo sales compared to last year. For the quarter ending June 30, the company raked in $181 million in sales, down by $13.2 million from 2015 and $8.2 million six month into the year.

With sales down, Olin’s management thinks ammo demand this year will follow seasonal trends and sales will bounce back in hunting and holiday shopping seasons.

DeYoung admitted politics has affected consumers’ decision to buy handguns and AR-pattern rifles. “Certainly the candidates who are on the stump are pounding the stump on Second Amendment issues,” he said and referenced Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s sweeping gun control proposals. He added it only makes sense that consumers also buy ammo for those firearms.

Mike Fifer, CEO of Sturm, Ruger & Company, which entered the ammo market last year, also dismissed describing sales this year as surging, but was hesitant to credit any increase directly to anti-gun politics. Yet, he praised his company’s fundraising efforts for the National Rifle Association and repeated elements of the organization’s stump speech characterizing Clinton as wanting to “abolish” the Second Amendment.

Ruger reported a 19 percent increase in sales for its second quarter, putting sales at $140.1 million and $341.1 million six months into the year. Gun sales made up 99 percent of all Ruger’s sales that quarter.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammunition; banglist; sales
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Ammunition sales down but gun sales up.
1 posted on 08/18/2016 11:30:41 AM PDT by PROCON
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He thinks consumers built up a vast inventory at home and are still feeding off of it, so the demand isn’t as high. “I personally believe that a lot of consumers over-stocked … pulled that ammo as quick as they could off those retail shelves and took it home and put it in their own basement,” he said.

(A wink and a smile here) ;o)

2 posted on 08/18/2016 11:36:40 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: PROCON

Oh yea! Nobody go boating with your entire ammunition supply!


3 posted on 08/18/2016 11:37:18 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: PROCON

Except for this quote that destroys the entire ptemisr:

“However, production of ammo for those types of firearms — 9mm and .223 — is at capacity. “If I had more 9mm, I could sell it. If I had more 5.56 and .223, I could sell it,” he said.”


4 posted on 08/18/2016 11:38:23 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (If those who defend our freedom do not know liberty, none of us will have either.)
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It’s not because there is a shortage, it’s because the gun dealers and suppliers are not selling it...

I have a connection and is very difficult to buy ammo...


5 posted on 08/18/2016 11:38:46 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence 100%)
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To: Tenacious 1
He thinks consumers built up a vast inventory at home and are still feeding off of it, so the demand isn’t as high.

Methinks he is right.

6 posted on 08/18/2016 11:38:48 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Tenacious 1
Nobody go boating with your entire ammunition supply!

Now you tell me.

7 posted on 08/18/2016 11:39:35 AM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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I personally believe that a lot of consumers over-stocked

I didn't think that was even possible.

8 posted on 08/18/2016 11:40:22 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: antidisestablishment

The premise remains: ammo sales are down this election year.


9 posted on 08/18/2016 11:40:59 AM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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Makes you wonder how many of them are Liberals. Maybe after the recent riots and Baltimore and Milwaukee in flames, some Liberals are turning. Of course, they still have to pretend that they hate guns so that they continue to be invited to their cocktail parties.
10 posted on 08/18/2016 11:41:14 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: HarleyLady27
I have a connection and is very difficult to buy ammo...

Not in my neck of the woods, there's plenty available of the highest demand calibers.

11 posted on 08/18/2016 11:42:23 AM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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"I personally believe that a lot of consumers over-stocked."

One can

NEVER

have too much ammo.
12 posted on 08/18/2016 11:45:51 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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"I personally believe that a lot of consumers over-stocked."

One can

NEVER

have too much ammo.
13 posted on 08/18/2016 11:45:51 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Well, I for one am tired of buying it, just to have it sink to the bottom of the river before I get it into my super-secret hoarding warehouse.

Which is empty, by the way...all my ammo and guns and food cache having sunk to the bottom of the river in a terrible boating accident.

FU Feds.

14 posted on 08/18/2016 11:46:13 AM PDT by OldSmaj (Voting for Hillary because she is a woman is like eating a turd because it looks like a Baby Ruth.)
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To: Tenacious 1

I only reordered range ammo. But, that was before I lost everything in a earthquake.


15 posted on 08/18/2016 11:46:55 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: DJ Taylor

EXACTLY!


16 posted on 08/18/2016 11:47:08 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: HarleyLady27

You haven’t been to LuckyGunner.com.


17 posted on 08/18/2016 11:48:16 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: PROCON; mylife; MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; ...

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18 posted on 08/18/2016 11:49:26 AM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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I have a sense that gun prices aren’t in the minds of buyers, unreasonable, but ammo costs skyrocketed and never came back to reasonable levels.


19 posted on 08/18/2016 11:52:06 AM PDT by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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It looks like Killery is winning the whole ammo and gun supply will disappear out of stores. Was in minnisota or wisconsin that passed an anti gun law and sold like 2000 guns in one day with lines waiting to get into stores.
20 posted on 08/18/2016 11:52:38 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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