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Missouri Just Forced All Welfare Recipients to GET A JOB – Here Are The Results:
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Posted on 01/02/2017 8:34:10 AM PST by Cheerio

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To: Sequoyah101

We started working minimum wage jobs while teens, but worked our way up.

We stayed in school and many got post-graduate degrees.

We delayed having children until we were married and could afford to house and feed them.

We didn’t gamble, drink to excess, or get addicted to drugs.


What is so difficult about these things?

If there are no consequences for living irresponsibly, then people will live irresponsibly. And the irresponsible living will perpetuate itself from generation to generation.

The cycle has to be broken, even if there have to be transitional programs in the near future.


41 posted on 01/02/2017 9:23:43 AM PST by randita (PLEASE STOP ALL THE WORTHLESS VANITIES!)
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To: Soul of the South
You got that 100% correct. Those WPA jobs, besides everything else you mentioned, achieved something else that's important. Young men with no jobs to keep them busy and no families to protect are the most destructive force on the planet. A job with a paycheck and pride in the accomplishment leads to stability leads to a desire to have a family.

Unfortunately, people today don't learn Sociology. It got connected with handout programs and a desire to herd the underclass, which is a shame.

An example of an ancient WPA project is the pyramids. Ancient Egypt was a highly successful civilization and people had a whole lot of time on their hands. So very wise leaders had them occupied and paid building humongous monuments to themselves. That's one hypothesis, anyway.

42 posted on 01/02/2017 9:32:10 AM PST by grania
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To: Cheerio

“limited food stamps for able-bodies and childless adults”

so it does nothing to stop the teens/20+ yr old women who foolishly get themselves pregnant then cannot provide for their child and the ones that come after.

May sound heartless, but women or men raising a child or more alone should not get many perks from the state or fed. Plenty of other ways for them to have help til they get earning income or increase their income.


43 posted on 01/02/2017 9:32:58 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: Cheerio

GOOD!

My old tagline was....

“Welfare was never meant to be a career choice”

And it wasn’t.

The whole thing needs to be scrapped and let the churches do their job of helping the poor. Makes them accountable as well.


44 posted on 01/02/2017 9:35:11 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ladyjane
There are jobs out there but you won't get them if you're covered with tats and piercings, you have few skills, your pants are hanging down and you don't speak understandable English.






45 posted on 01/02/2017 9:36:51 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ladyjane

From what I saw on my last trip to MO, much of the rural area resembled the third world. Drugs and welfare have devastated the state. The largest employer seemed to be the police, with the court house and county jail being the largest facilities. I had to drive 80 miles to find a decent hotel. It was right off the Interstate, but when I ran to grab some dinner, I soon became very cognizant that I didn’t have my pistol with me.

This depth of ignorance, poverty, and dependence is not something that will disappear by executive fiat. Much of the country is ravaged as if by cancer. Studies indicate it takes at least 2 years to overcome every year of trauma. If that’s the case, we have a century’s worth of hard work—all the while opposed by almost half the country and virtually every institution.


46 posted on 01/02/2017 9:44:35 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: Cheerio

Except for the fact that Bill Clinton did something similar, that would be downright racist - that and the fact that there are more Whites on welfare than Blacks....


47 posted on 01/02/2017 9:46:21 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ladyjane

Thank you! ‘Can’t raise a family’ on $10 an hour? How about teenagers seeing entry level jobs NOT making babies the jobs they can do will support? Don’t make what you can’t feed. It’s not business’ responsibility to pay you according to the number of kids you have. If that were the case salaries should double with each birth? Minimum wage for no kids- $10 an hour, for 5 kids $60 an hour? It’s all bass-ackwards!


48 posted on 01/02/2017 9:48:21 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: umgud

“move to CA where the teat is expanding and still flowing”

A neighbor worked in State Government, and told me that San Bernardino County had the highest number of people collecting government checks, in CA. The reason is because it was the first county people landed in when they crossed the state line looking to get on the dole, and usually where their car broke down, after the long trip, from wherever they came from :(


49 posted on 01/02/2017 9:49:47 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: Ciaphas Cain

There were no jobs; there now are jobs. I understand how hard it is to have been unemployed for 3 of 5 or even 8 years, having gone through the interview process, thinking that THIS time there will be a job, and it turns out that they weren’t really hiring at all, just going through the motions.

This change is coming at the right time. There are jobs available; sure, not the best jobs, but jobs which have fair hours and pay. It’s time we put America back to work, rather than waiting for that EBT card to reload.


50 posted on 01/02/2017 9:57:21 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Cheerio

What were the results? Skimmed through the article and did not see results.


51 posted on 01/02/2017 9:58:49 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Cheerio

We’re about to witness the truth that there are jobs Americans will do which the illegal aliens are now doing. Once the pay to stay home is eliminated, the jobs become a lot more appealing.


52 posted on 01/02/2017 10:10:17 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Gamecock
And I have no problem with transitional benifits for those folk.

Was it Bush who suggested that it be a "hand up" rather than a handout?

53 posted on 01/02/2017 10:16:23 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Cheerio

Some of my employees take that 20 hour thing as a limit.


54 posted on 01/02/2017 10:28:59 AM PST by steve8714 (My wife calls me Dr. Smartacus. This makes me happy.)
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To: Sequoyah101

In the past people have taken on two or three jobs to make ends meet. People can do that today, too. I see help wanted signs all over. They may not be great jobs, but they’re available. We should stop allowing people to sit idly on their fellow taxpayer’s dime. It may be harsh, but it would encourage them to make an effort for themselves.


55 posted on 01/02/2017 10:38:20 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: Texas Eagle
" . . . and live the American dream, not just be dependent on the federal government.”

But living on the welfare system is their American Dream.

56 posted on 01/02/2017 10:41:34 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Soul of the South

Good post.

Over the years, I have had many long conversations with elders that experienced the great depression up close and personal. They either loved FDR or hated him. Few were neutral. The ratio seemed about 50-50.

Many reminisced that a big benefit from those old programs was in keeping the work ethic. They had to show up every day on time. This concept has been lost, but it should be possible to rediscover.


57 posted on 01/02/2017 10:50:34 AM PST by BAN-ONE
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To: Cheerio

“...childless adults...”

Meh. That’s the loophole. Keep spittin’ out babies, we good.


58 posted on 01/02/2017 10:51:22 AM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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We are, without doubt, down the rabbit hole. Now people are demanding wages based on the size of their families, not limiting family to their financial situation. Government has been rewarding unchecked reproduction, now private business has to be governed by the employees dependents? ‘Living wage’ will NEVER be enough if you keep making more babies than money. I hope there’s a Trump ladder out of this hole.


59 posted on 01/02/2017 12:13:32 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Agreed. There are ways out, IMO, that the Dems will fight tooth and nail.

Limit any financial assistance to preschool-aged children already here.
Men do abandon their children, sometimes no fault of the mother, and when those children are preschool age, what to do? The Dem solution is taxpayer-funded daycare. No, no, no.

OTOH, when the child starts public school, THAT is taxpayer-funded babysitting. So, no excuse for mom to sit home smoking crack and hanging with her friends all day. She has the time to get a job/ job training.

And no increase in benefits for subsequent pregnancies/ children, nor any funding for abortions.

We need to disallow Medicaid payments for illegal alien women’s prenatal care, as well as labor and delivery room costs for anchor babies.

We need to understand that welfare in its current form discourages marriage. Many women are claiming to be eligible single mothers, when in fact there IS an “undocumented” man (no marriage on file) in the home who is living off the woman’s benefits. Oftentimes he’s also working for unreported cash or selling drugs.
So the children are, in effect, the official breadwinners, providing the family’s income; and having more children is the incentive to “earn” more money!

It’s true we can’t legislate morality, but we need to stop rewarding irresponsibility. Women DO have power. They can accept responsibility for their choices. Responsibility starts with the understanding that promiscuity leads to fatherless children, and a ticket to a lifetime of poverty.


60 posted on 01/02/2017 1:13:21 PM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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