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Rep. Ted Poe: House Freedom Caucus Moved the Goalpost in Healthcare Negotiations
People's Pundit ^ | 3/27/17 | Richard Baris

Posted on 03/27/2017 8:01:30 AM PDT by Sybeck1

Rep. Ted Poe., R-Texas, resigned from the House Freedom Caucus (HFC) after they moved the goalpost during healthcare negotiations with President Trump. As People’s Pundit Daily previously reported, the ObamaCare repeal bill was amended 11 times in an effort to appease the various conservative and moderate factions in the House GOP.

“I have resigned from the House Freedom Caucus,” Rep. Poe, a founding member of the caucus said in a statement. “In order to deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward. Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective Member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead.”

In an appearance on Fox and Friends Monday morning, the Texas congressman said he spoke with HFC chair Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., who asked him to stay. But he explained how the caucus changed their demands after the president negotiated with House leadership to get their provisions into the bill and felt that the caucus was basically negotiating in bad faith.

“They were always going to be a ‘No’,” he said.

He made a similiar comment over the weekend.

“Some only want to be the party of ‘no’ & would’ve voted against the 10 commandments,” Rep. Poe tweeted.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: biggovpopulists; freedomcaucus; freedomcuckass; gopefan; obamacare; poe; populists
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1 posted on 03/27/2017 8:01:30 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1
“They were always going to be a ‘No’,” he said.

Criticism of the House Freedom Caucus from "conservatives" because the HFC rejected socialism. I don't even know what's going on anymore.

2 posted on 03/27/2017 8:05:49 AM PDT by gdani (Repeal. It. All.)
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To: Sybeck1

Why do so many FReepers trust the HFC? They supported Ryan for Speaker! This despite his horrendous views on immigration that are in line with Luis Gutierrez, his ultra-liberal Democrat activist wife (BFF with Eric Cantor’s libDem wife) and his history of treachery. I trust NO ONE. The HFC is just as capable of being bribed by the Uniparty as anyone else, in order to destroy their mutual enemy Trump.


3 posted on 03/27/2017 8:09:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: gdani

Concessions that they asked for were met. They then asked for more. This mythical “free market” bill is never going to get through a congress who can’t compromise an inch. The free market has been out of healthcare for 50 years. And its all or nothing now?


4 posted on 03/27/2017 8:10:26 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

The 20 idiots of the F Caucus also moved the goal post on my retirement, it now looks like I will have to work two more years because they F Caucused my Trump rally and the DOW is down and what do you think millions of Americans are going to say to the F Caucus when they look at their 401k statement, “thank you”?

The Republicans finally handed the opportunity to bring prosperity to America and the F Caucus says No!

What’s the F Caucus going to F up next, the tax cut agenda? They already F’d up the momentum and Trump rally.

Thanks for nothing F Caucus, the Do Nothing Republicans.


5 posted on 03/27/2017 8:10:50 AM PDT by ShivaFan
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To: Sybeck1

They were to supposed to repeal Obamacare, not tweak it. What is so difficult to understand about that?


6 posted on 03/27/2017 8:11:58 AM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: montag813

That is different. Michelle Bachmann was a good congresswoman, and she voted for Boehner’s reelection. They will get nothing if the speaker knows that person voted against them.


7 posted on 03/27/2017 8:15:55 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: Sybeck1

I have a lot of respect for this guy. Negotiating in bad faith is a democrat ploy. I thought our guys had more honor than that


8 posted on 03/27/2017 8:16:16 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Sybeck1
The Ryan Bill was a disaster that was basically written by and for the insurance industry tom guarantee them profits at the expense of the American taxpayer.

Donald Trump be right to say the Ryan bill was the start of a three part process but we hear that kind garbage from Washington constantly and the next two steps will never happen.

Repeal ObamaCare in it's entirety and replace it.

9 posted on 03/27/2017 8:16:25 AM PDT by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: Sybeck1; LS; Owen

Poe seems to be indicating what freeper Owen said in that other thread....if true, this is a shame, imo.


10 posted on 03/27/2017 8:17:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Smittie

Can you explain the HC bill the Republican were going to vote on? Just curious to know if you understand everything that was in that bill. All I hear are what the mainstream media outlets are reporting.


11 posted on 03/27/2017 8:17:22 AM PDT by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: gdani
" because the HFC rejected socialism."

They rejected socialism by keeping it?

12 posted on 03/27/2017 8:17:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: montag813
What is going on is the right aisle of the uniparty tried to call itself conservative - you know, like true conservatives Ryan and Jeb!

They tried to use labels to swindle us on substance. They got caught in their lies and now they are screaming "betrayal" by those who stood on genuine non-socialist principles.

13 posted on 03/27/2017 8:19:14 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ShivaFan
There's a quote from Patrick Henry (not the famous quote) which you would do well to contemplate:

You are not to inquire how your trade may be increased, nor how you are to become a great and powerful people, but how your liberties can be secured; for liberty ought to be the direct end of your Government.

14 posted on 03/27/2017 8:20:26 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: ShivaFan

“The 20 idiots of the F Caucus also moved the goal post on my retirement, it now looks like I will have to work two more years because they F Caucused my Trump rally and the DOW”

The market is Waaaaay overdue for a major correction, so your goalposts are going to get moved even further.


15 posted on 03/27/2017 8:20:35 AM PDT by Emergencyawesome
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To: SoFloFreeper

As long as they get a repeal/Replace Bill done by March 2018 right after the Oct/Nov Obamacare Insurance rate hikes happen again and more providers drop leaving people w/ nothing.

Then we can be safe for 2018 mid terms. We cant lose the house over this bickering.

What is going on with this 2015 Bill sitting in Committee forever? Dust something off and try again.


16 posted on 03/27/2017 8:22:42 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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To: SoFloFreeper

Bannon was not happy with HFC toward the end, further suggesting they weren’t negotiating in good faith.

I love Jim Jordan, but here’s my problem with HFC & one reason I was really ticked at them 2 years ago: they didn’t even challenge Ru Paul. Not ONE HFC member stepped up to run against him. So people here can’t complain about Ru Paul.


17 posted on 03/27/2017 8:22:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: ShivaFan

Yes these purists has cost us dearly. This was not going to be the final bill. It had to go to the Senate then through reconciliation. Now Trump’s agenda and momentum have been stalled which was much more important than these never Trumpers agenda. Thanks for nothing!!!!


18 posted on 03/27/2017 8:23:17 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Sybeck1

Healthcare Controls and The Benefits of “The Blame Game”…

Posted on  by 

In the final hours prior to the healthcare debacle, the billionaire Koch Brothers sent a warning to the House Freedom Caucus that they’d better hold the line and kill the ObamaCare repeal or replacement bill, or else.

…”The advocacy groups helmed by Charles and David Koch have unveiled a new pool of money for advertisements, field programs and mailings that would exclude those who vote for the health care bill they oppose on Thursday. The effort, which they described as worth millions of dollars, is an explicit warning to on-the-fence Republicans from one of the most influential players in electoral politics not to cross them”… (more).

Weeks earlier the Billionaire authors (special interests) behind the ObamaCare repeal and replacement, Tom Donohue U.S. CoC et al., warned Speaker Ryan they expected the boundaries established years earlier to be retained.

Two sets of billionaire interests representing: ‘who-pays-the-insurance-premium‘ within the Healthcare issue.

It’s Paul Ryan’s fault, “remove him” some say.  No, it’s the House Freedom Caucus. “Grab the tar and feathers”, others say….

Odd, no?

Odd, because in the aftermath of the fiasco all of the blame-centric attention is focused on Speaker Paul Ryan and/or the House Freedom Caucus – meanwhile the billionaires garner nary a critical side-eye?

Perhaps it’s just too disconcerting of a paradigm shift for the average voter to ask?

No-one seems to ask those questions.

Is it because it’s just easier to focus on Bad Ryan, or Bad Caucus?

Or, just maybe, is it because the billionaire BIG CLUB members are just smart and they know how to keep the “stupidity of the American voter” focused on Bad Ryan and Bad Caucus?

The billionaire BIG CLUB members most certainly didn’t become billionaire BIG CLUB members by being stupid.

Special, more influential, membership requires special, more influential, interests.  The questions posed above constitute a larger risk.  How do you control that risk – You control the narrative.  How do you control the narrative – You control the PR.  How do you control the PR – You control the media.  How do you control the media – You own or create it.

Therein you recognize BIG CLUB membership requires a media to sell your special, more influential, interests.

You then use your media to keep people focused on factional fighting: Ryan Bad. No,  Caucus Bad.  Mentally, that’s much easier -more comfortable- to handle; and it keeps people from asking the ultimate questions which lay at the root of the issues.

Billionaire BIG CLUB – Influence and Control agents:

♦ Billionaire Carlos Slim – PR Firm: New York Times.

♦ Billionaire Robert Mercer – PR Firm: Breitbart Media

♦ Billionaire Jeff Bezos – PR Firm: Washington Post

♦ Billionaire Rupert Murdoch – PR Firm: Wall Street Journal, Fox News Corp.

♦ Billionaire Farris Wilks – PR Firm: The Daily Wire (Ben Shapiro)

♦ Billionaire Cary Katz – PR Firm: Conservative Review and CRTV (Mark Levin)

…and so it goes.

Yet, no-one seems to notice.

It is just much easier to argue about Paul Ryan and Mark Meadows, and ignore the bigger argument is really about Tom Donohue vs Koch Brothers.

Then again, if we were to start really drilling down the issue, we might have to recognize the entire framework of the 2010 Citizens United SCOTUS decision just, really did, inject steroids into an already bastardized process of political finance and special interests.

When CTH points out that without the Citizens United decision, the Freedom Caucus couldn’t exist, we are getting way too close to the inner circle discussion that lies at the heart of the matter.  Consequently CTH draws attention from the eye of Sauron.

It is funny, not in a ha-ha way, how no-one ever notices the financial interests of each billionaire within the club are directly tied to the expressed and outlined special interests of the Media outlet who sell the narrative of their owner.  EXAMPLE:

In 2010, when ObamaCare was signed into law, one of the lesser discussed aspects was the federal government abolished private-sector distribution of federal student loan monies.  The entire business model of College Loan Corp, Cary Katz’s Lending Corporation, was destroyed by ObamaCare.

Ordinary banks are still able to lend their own money under traditional lending agreements with students; however, the business of brokering the lending of federally secured and underwritten education funds was ended.

Lending Corp., was one of those brokerage middlemen eliminated by ObamaCare.   The feds now directly lend the funds to students.  Cutting out the middleman was designed to save the government money.

ObamaCare taking over the student loan industry was a monumental loss to Cary Katz/Lending Corp. on a massive scale.  In 2008 his company loaned out nearly $11 billion to students within their financial enterprise.  ObamaCare stopped that practice cold.

During the ObamaCare construct Cary Katz spent millions funding any politician that was opposing ObamaCare, and since passage he has spent millions funding efforts toward its repeal.

The Conservative Review website was started by Billionaire Cary Katz in 2014  as “managing member” and sole officer.  Mark Levin was hired as front-man for the enterprise.  As CR evolved in 2015, the Conservative Review’s litmus-test was,… wait for it… yup, ObamaCare repeal.  Go figure.

It’s a BIG CLUB….. And You Ain’t in It!

Each billionaire member in the BIG CLUB also has their own media propaganda machine.

Each billionaire media firm tells you, the reader/voter, who to be outraged against.

So think again, about who is to blame for the HealthCare reform bill’s collapse.

After you think about who is to blame, ask yourself where did you get the information that helped you to formulate your opinion on who is to blame.

If you find you have just swallowed a Red Pill, you might also ask yourself:

Only you can answer those questions.

 

 

 

19 posted on 03/27/2017 8:25:04 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: ShivaFan

Rest assured. While you are eating dog food from a can in your cardboard box down on skid row, you can at least be thankful the Freedom Caucus saved you from Obamacare, by keeping Obamacare


20 posted on 03/27/2017 8:29:55 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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