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To: exnavy
than term limits

If the States are to reassert their soveriegnty, why should the persons they choose to represent them be limited in the number of terms they can do so? That would force states to change their representation against their interest.

7 posted on 04/07/2017 2:54:06 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Agree. And a balanced budget amendment could be cheated 10 ways to Sunday with accounting gimmicks etc.

An amendment repealing the 17th could not be cheated.

8 posted on 04/07/2017 3:05:23 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

Jaun McCain, the best argument for term limits in two centuries.


14 posted on 04/07/2017 4:03:31 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: An.American.Expatriate
If the States are to reassert their soveriegnty, why should the persons they choose to represent them be limited in the number of terms they can do so? That would force states to change their representation against their interest.

It would eliminate the class of individuals who are professional politicians. You know, the ones who put their own interests ahead of the good of the state or nation.

26 posted on 04/07/2017 9:46:42 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
...why should the persons they choose to represent them be limited in the number of terms they can do so?

I posted this on October 2, 2014 in the thread A new case for Congressional term limits.


I don't support term limits. I do support repealing the 17th amendment.

It's odd to see the same people who want to keep the right to vote for Senators also want term limits on them. It's the old "stop me before I kill again" argument.

Either keep the right to vote for someone for the Senate for as long as you want to keep sending them back, or eliminate the right to vote for Senators altogether and let the state legislature select the Senator. Then you vote for the legislature that you want.

But don't demand the right to vote for your Senator, but only let me do it once.

Presidential term limits are a post-17th amendment phenomenon. I wonder why we never had a 3rd term president until Roosevelt? Was it because the Senate no longer represented the states, and the states couldn't influence the federal government like they did just 20 years earlier?

House Representatives are too numerous to care, and their districts are too small to limit whom the locals wish to send to Congress. However, with the rise of the influence of national parties due to the need to raise campaign cash for 33 Senate elections every two years, there is a party trickle-down of money to the House by party members in the Senate. If you eliminate Senate elections, you dry up a major source of campaign funds that would naturally flow to House races, too.

Repeal the 17th amendment, and a natural term limit will be restored across all of the federal government.


-PJ

42 posted on 04/08/2017 8:41:17 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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