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Is It “UnChristian” to Execute 8 Murderers?
Rapture Forums ^ | 4/24/17 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 04/25/2017 6:42:20 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: I want the USA back

——There is nothing immoral about executing murderers, however, I don’t want our government to have the power to execute people. ——

So what entity should carry out justice ?

Vigilant groups ?


21 posted on 04/25/2017 7:19:24 AM PDT by Popman
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

No it’s not. God advised killing those who took lives. That’s His commandment on the issue.


22 posted on 04/25/2017 7:22:36 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Video

6. Do Not Murder

Dennis Prager
Prager University

It is not murder to kill in battle, to kill in legitimate defence of one's own life or the life of another, or to kill those judged to be truly wicked.

23 posted on 04/25/2017 7:23:43 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

In the entire history of the Church since Jesus Christ, as well as Protestant Churches after 1517, they have never denied the right of civil authorities to implement the death penalty - of course, as long as it is done justly, with great caution, and attention to any mitigating circumstances, and when evidence is without doubt.


24 posted on 04/25/2017 7:25:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I have no problem with execution as a punishment allowed by scripture. The Apostle Paul validates that in Romans 13.

However, I do believe an man innocent of a murder he has been charged with should not be executed.

I want all executions to have the standard of absolute proof and not just “within a reasonable doubt”.

You don’t get do-overs on executions.

I am not talking here about whether there is an argument over the classification of the type of murder, over whether it was in commission of a feloney, etc. The issue for me is simply did Charge Person A commit charged murder A.

Absolute proof is proof that allows for no other possible conclusion to be reached.


25 posted on 04/25/2017 7:26:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

>The Bible, in both the Old and New Testaments, prescribes the death penalty as a legitimate tool of God-ordained government.

There’s the central problem with your thesis.

This is not a God-ordained government, and only a dangerously psychotic and likely criminally insane person would think it was.


26 posted on 04/25/2017 7:27:35 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: I want the USA back

“All too often they pick a vulnerable person, ram the case through, and execute him all for the higher glory of their career.”

Given the above article, and many other cases like those, and the very few actual executions due to bleeding heart liberals and the “justice” system they’ve co-opted (always crying for the murderer rather than the victim) - how often does your scenario actually happen?


27 posted on 04/25/2017 7:31:29 AM PDT by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: caww

So, what is the solution? I gave mine. Kill them.


28 posted on 04/25/2017 7:31:35 AM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: Karliner

I am for the death penalty. Allowing them to live simply poisons further those in prison and risks the safety of the nation ....


29 posted on 04/25/2017 7:34:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Most scripture versions, Exodus 20:13, prohibit murder. The King James reads Thous Shalt not kill.

Murder is what is prohibited, not killing.

Capital punishment, I do believe, is covered clearly in Romans 13:
(ESV)

Submission to the Authorities
13 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

30 posted on 04/25/2017 7:37:58 AM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

They were hanged.


31 posted on 04/25/2017 7:40:20 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ("You know Caligula?" --- "Worse! Caligula knows me!")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

A person who kills another human being willingly does not have the right to live.
An eye for an eye.


32 posted on 04/25/2017 7:41:58 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The death penalty is not murder; it is justice.


33 posted on 04/25/2017 7:56:18 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Here is the major problem, especially an error made by those of the liberal mindset:

Christian values are to be practiced by governments - not by individuals.

The truth is the opposite: Christian values are to be practiced by individuals - BUT NOT BY GOVERNMENTS.

Government’s purpose is clear in Romans 13: to protect its citizens and punish behavior by individuals that is harmful to its society.

Hence governments MUST PUNISH evil behavior - and that includes the death penalty. The government does not have the right to forgive - it must execute justice or it fails in its major reason for existing. Only individuals can forgive - and should.

When government does not execute justice, its society and the individuals in it are harmed and suffer. As in Chicago.

Liberals hate Christianity - because it demands Christian virtues on their part. But they love to apply Christian virtues to government, as it satisfies their deceived consciences in thinking they are thereby virtuous - while they totally refuse any individual requirement that they practice Christian virtues themselves.

Liberals are the ultimate hypocrites.


34 posted on 04/25/2017 8:01:37 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Blacks are not afraid of the death penalty anymore. My 200 year old “slabery’


35 posted on 04/25/2017 8:05:03 AM PDT by blackbetty59
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To: sagar
Christianity isn’t carrying out the sentence. The State is.

And this is a critical point. Liberals love to blur the lines between individual responsibility and state responsibility.

36 posted on 04/25/2017 8:08:04 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

As John Wayne said in “The Longest Day”:

“Send ‘em to Hell!”


37 posted on 04/25/2017 8:09:38 AM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
The Bible clearly supports the death penalty

The Bible clearly supports slavery

38 posted on 04/25/2017 8:42:27 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: wastoute

I remember reading that book. Some truth as there are gang bangers and such who have killed scores but no proof. Four serial killers playing cards is a BIT over the top as they’re usually in lock down for the duration but I haven’t seen everything.


39 posted on 04/25/2017 8:48:41 AM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: caww
Allowing them to live simply poisons further those in prison and risks the safety of the nation ...

I'd like to get those protestors outside the gates with their signs and sacred bleeder lines and let them live inside the razor wire for a week. All of them would change their tune.

40 posted on 04/25/2017 8:51:30 AM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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