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All fossil-fuel vehicles will vanish in 8 years
Financial Post ^ | 16 May 2017 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 05/19/2017 6:18:20 PM PDT by Lorianne

No more petrol or diesel cars, buses, or trucks will be sold anywhere in the world within eight years. The entire market for land transport will switch to electrification, leading to a collapse of oil prices and the demise of the petroleum industry as we have known it for a century.

This is the futuristic forecast by Stanford University economist Tony Seba. His report, with the deceptively bland title Rethinking Transportation 2020-2030, has gone viral in green circles and is causing spasms of anxiety in the established industries.

Seba’s premise is that people will stop driving altogether. They will switch en masse to self-drive electric vehicles (EVs) that are ten times cheaper to run than fossil-based cars, with a near-zero marginal cost of fuel and an expected lifespan of 1 million miles.

Only nostalgics will cling to the old habit of car ownership. The rest will adapt to vehicles on demand. It will become harder to find a petrol station, spares, or anybody to fix the 2,000 moving parts that bedevil the internal combustion engine. Dealers will disappear by 2024.

Cities will ban human drivers once the data confirms how dangerous they can be behind a wheel. This will spread to suburbs, and then beyond. There will be a “mass stranding of existing vehicles”. The value of second-hard cars will plunge. You will have to pay to dispose of your old vehicle.

It is a twin “death spiral” for big oil and big autos, with ugly implications for some big companies on the London Stock Exchange unless they adapt in time.

(Excerpt) Read more at financialpost.com ...


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To: blueunicorn6
Next summer's breakout hit Sci-Fi film, "Day Without A Beater Car".


81 posted on 05/19/2017 7:33:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: Lorianne

These futurist predictions are nothing but the expression of their desires.


82 posted on 05/19/2017 7:34:01 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Acting consistently in a way that is contrary to nature results in insanity.)
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To: Lorianne

This article is BULL.


83 posted on 05/19/2017 7:37:49 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: Seruzawa

I have a college education, and I don’t believe it!

LOL!

Good Lord Willing and the Creeks don’t rise, I’ll still be driving my ‘65 GTO in 2025!


84 posted on 05/19/2017 7:39:13 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Lorianne

Yeah right. And Thanksgiving is on Monday this year ....


85 posted on 05/19/2017 7:39:40 PM PDT by t4texas (Remember the Alamo)
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To: Lorianne
The entire market for land transport will switch to coal, leading to a collapse of oil prices and the demise of the petroleum industry as we have known it for a century.
86 posted on 05/19/2017 7:39:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lorianne

The only thing I saw that I believe: Cities will ban human driven cars. Driverless vehicles cannot cope with the random errors and casual violations of traffic laws that human drivers produce constantly, so to the clueless libtards that run the cities the obvious solution will be to ban human drivers. Better put that red barchetta away in the barn now.


87 posted on 05/19/2017 7:40:42 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Lorianne

BOOL SHEET


88 posted on 05/19/2017 7:45:24 PM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: Lorianne

Please tell me where the raw materials will come from for the batteries. Consumption of lithium is due to outstrip the worlds known supplies in a few short years. Show me facts, not just hopeful feelings.


89 posted on 05/19/2017 7:51:06 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Lorianne

That professor owes me a lot of money for stealing what I’ve been saying for at least the last 5 years. BTW, I didn’t need to conduct a study in order to draw the conclusions which the professor has stolen.

The professor does go quite astray by claiming that the oil industry will fade after the gas-powered cars stop selling.

I predict that the autonomous vehicles will become very popular, but that’s not to say that they have to be electric, since autonomous will work exactly the same with with regular fuel cars.

I have also predicted that governments everywhere will have to come up with alternative funding sources, since oil pays a very large portion of government programs.

Dealerships will disappear, eventually, and what will be left is fleet operators of the available vehicles which will be made available to consumers with ride-hailing services, and the fleet operators will be the same as the car-makers, since that would become their bread-and-butter after they have made themselves obsolete by producing self-driving cars that people won’t need to own anymore.

BTW, the autonomous vehicle makers will still be the same as the regular fuel vehicle makers, since, they’re the ones best positioned to incorporate autonomous technology into their vehicles. Companies such as Google and Apple and other non-automaker companies, will simply be developing and improving the autonomous driving technology, but they won’t be making the vehicles, unless they were to buy an automaker or merge with one.

I wrote about how the technology will be very devastating to a lot of industries and government, while also making life a lot easier and a lot less costly. With less economic activity as a result of autonomous vehicles, there will also be a lot less people working and fewer companies, and a lot less people and companies to support the taxation required by governments the world over, which will cause a lot of leaders internationally to “rethinK” the “game-changing” and disruptive technology.


90 posted on 05/19/2017 7:55:59 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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To: odawg

Maybe. But I do know quite a bit about battery technology and unless there is some fancy fantastic new battery technology that no one ever heard of the chances of this happening are exactly zero. We couldn’t make that many batteries. And current new cars are going to last at least 10 years. Many go 200000 miles with little repair need.


91 posted on 05/19/2017 7:56:27 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
So many things wrong with the premises ...

Not just 1, or 2 but 3 major technological break-thru's necessary before even feasible. First, distance between charges. Most EV's are still in the sub-100 category, which essentially eliminates anyone that drives 100 miles/day. Second, which COULD mitigate the first, is speed of recharge. Very promising technology out there, but still in infancy, and before it could completely overcome the market there will be the standardization wars with different companies holding different patents wanting theirs to become the "industry standard". Third, is the self-driving component. Again, current tech is promising, but what if where you want to go is not on a map, or if the map is just plain wrong. What would happen to public transportation if everyone could just uber a self driving car instead? That would lead to MORE congestion. What would happen to state governments if there were no longer an incentive to use Pay HOV lanes? Heck, what would happen to states if people no longer had to pay to license their cars. What would happen if there were no more gas taxes. I am sure the author is expecting Moores Law to kick in, but in reality, autonomous EVs are not following Moores Law. To expect even half of the technical issues to be resolved in the next decade is a long shot. Add another 10-20 minimum to solve the issues with standardization, and maybe another 100 to solve the issues with taxation.
92 posted on 05/19/2017 8:00:12 PM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Well then I won’t drive into the city to spend my money any more. I can get what I need in the burbs or online.


93 posted on 05/19/2017 8:03:26 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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To: Lorianne

Bull crap. What are they going to use to generate the electricity to charge their batteries with? Rainbows and unicorn farts?


94 posted on 05/19/2017 8:03:41 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: Lorianne

And those electric cars are going to be FLYING CARS too!


95 posted on 05/19/2017 8:08:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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To: a fool in paradise

That may be the link that I was missing.


96 posted on 05/19/2017 8:23:27 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Snickering Hound
We were supposed to have flying cars that folded up into a briefcase when we got to work by now if I remember right.

Yeah, but we were also supposed to have heteronormative marriages with children as the social norm by now too.


97 posted on 05/19/2017 8:33:20 PM PDT by Maceman (Let's ban Muslims temporarily -- just until non-Muslims can freely practice their religions in Mecca)
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To: PAR35
Planes. this is a car thread!


98 posted on 05/19/2017 8:34:06 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (41)
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To: Lorianne

The Professor has O.D’d on BS sandwiches.


99 posted on 05/19/2017 9:02:44 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Lorianne

There will be at least one “Brilliant Red Barchetta from a better managed time.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Q05UyIOX4


100 posted on 05/19/2017 9:09:47 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (If you choose not to deal with reality, reality will deal with you - and not on your terms)
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