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Hampton Creek announces plan to offer lab-grown meat by 2018, 3D printing under consideration
3Ders ^ | July 6, 2017

Posted on 07/07/2017 10:04:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 07/07/2017 10:04:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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All I want is my meat grown in a feedlot. Is that to much to ask for?


2 posted on 07/07/2017 10:11:50 PM PDT by sagar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Frankenfood!
Print me a monogrammed filet, I might consider it.


3 posted on 07/07/2017 10:16:53 PM PDT by GnuThere
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Hey, honey - print me a sammich...


4 posted on 07/07/2017 10:19:40 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Only the dead have seen an end to war.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let me know when they can print tea, Earl Grey, hot.


5 posted on 07/07/2017 10:27:09 PM PDT by Malcolm Reynolds
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If they can print a 200 lb buck I could take it in the woods and pretend I shot it myself.


6 posted on 07/07/2017 10:29:42 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does it taste like chicken?


7 posted on 07/07/2017 10:30:52 PM PDT by umgud
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No thanks. The very idea is disgusting. Sometimes, corporate America really does a lot of things well...except food.


8 posted on 07/07/2017 10:38:23 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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The global warming eco-nuts hate how much water and energy go into raising livestock for food. That’s what this is all about, I’m sure.


9 posted on 07/07/2017 10:42:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Franken meat yuck


10 posted on 07/07/2017 10:51:45 PM PDT by Lera
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I’m sure it will be at least as good as the tri-tip I roasted tonight...

Or not even close.


11 posted on 07/07/2017 10:59:36 PM PDT by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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Franken meat yuck

Well for someone that remembers how meat used to taste, who cares?

12 posted on 07/07/2017 11:35:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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I’ll try it.


13 posted on 07/08/2017 12:04:10 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: sagar

All I want is grassfed beef. And that’s often too much to pay for, but really delish. So I just eat less. As for phony printed food...never!


14 posted on 07/08/2017 12:12:04 AM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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Spot on! I believe it’s also the underlying reason the FEDs/BLM have been so hell bent on screwing up longstanding grazers in the west, and the reason behind the whole “meat and fats are bad for you” line of bulls***...


15 posted on 07/08/2017 12:35:56 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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Hampton Creeks is a "vegan" (sounds like Star Trek) company. These vegan fools won't eat any cheese, or dairy in general. Or eggs. Or meat. Because it's "bad" for you.

They want to be "natural". So instead of eating their veggies like good granola crunchers, they have to have their veggies transformed into some kind of ersatz Frankenfood: tofu turkey, bean "burgers", fake cheese, fake eggs, fake mayonnaise.

If you ever come across any of this food, look at the ingredients on the label. It will disgust you. Why not eat food in its natural form as God made it? How come these poor babies can't eat their veggies the way God made them, but instead require that they be extensively processed in a food factory to turn them into some ersatz second rate substitute for real food?

16 posted on 07/08/2017 2:59:38 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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I can see it in the future, no more refrigerators, freezers and horrible BBQ’s ribs (without bones of course)


17 posted on 07/08/2017 3:59:54 AM PDT by DaveA37
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Let me just say I have my doubts.

Cells in culture require fetal calf serum, FCS. (Sometimes it is called fetal bovine serum, or FBS.) FCS is collected from unborn calves when pregnant cows are slaughtered. Only about a liter of FCS is collected from a calf (depending on the gestational age). Cell culture medium usually contains 10% FCS. No doubt some kind of fermentation system would be used to grow the cells, which would increase the yield, but a lot of FCS would still be necessary... at a very rough guess, I think at least one calf worth of serum per burger or steak.

The company claims to be able to use plant based media to grow the cells, but I have my doubts. There are few animal-free cell culture products for sale, and only a few cell lines/cell types have been adapted for growth in the animal-free media. So, most likely, any lab grown cells are grown using FCS. So cows and unborn calves will continue to be slaughtered (or maybe this vegan company plans to establish a cow abortuary). The more that cells are adapted for growth in culture, especially in animal-free media, the less those cells resemble the animal from which they originated.

There is the issue of where the cells themselves will originate. Will they be primary cells, which still have the characteristics of the cells within the animals? If so, then those cells will have to be collected so that they can be grown. How will they be collected? From live cows (maybe the same ones being used in their cow abortuary)? From slaughtered cows? Either way, they will have to be collected often, since true primary cells tend not to grow for more than a few weeks once removed from the animal. Or if they use immortalized cells, that is another issue. The process of making cells immortal changes them significantly; in some ways, these changes are similar to changes cells undergo as they become cancerous. In fact, many cell lines are established from cancer cells. Furthermore, immortalized cell lines tend to change over time. So, after years in culture, they only have a weak resemblance to the original cells extracted from an animal. Cell culture is fine for research of specific biochemical pathways, but I would not want to eat cells grown in cell culture.

Last, I should mention that the use of FCS is not without controversy. I think that most scientists assume that the calves become unconscious once the cow is killed and they no longer receive oxygen through the placenta. In that case, they would not feel the blood collection (the blood is removed from their heart; the blood is the source of the serum). But there is research that indicates that such is not the case, and the fetal calves in fact do feel a lot of pain. I have read articles that recommend rendering the calf unconscious or euthanizing it prior to blood collection.

tl;dr version: You don’t want to eat cells grown in a lab. Just go for the genuine steak.


18 posted on 07/08/2017 4:26:35 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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“Hampton Creek announces plan to offer lab-grown meat by 2018, ...”

Bankruptcy before 2025. Even if they are able to produce an edible “steak” they are going to face the problem of scale. People who are used to working in a lab are quite shocked to discover how big commercial processes are and need to be. You think its hard to maintain sterility in a few tissue culture bottle of cells, imagine something a million times the size.

Cost is another issue when you are competing against someone who simply has to grow a cow, kill it, and cut it up. Its infinitely more complex and difficult when you have to grow the equivalent mass of cells, and build a steak from it. Complex and difficult = costly.


19 posted on 07/08/2017 5:10:19 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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Soylent Green.


20 posted on 07/08/2017 5:35:18 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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