Posted on 08/18/2017 10:05:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Massive law suit. Get every penny they have.
Here’s what the law says about Confederate monuments:
Confederate soldiers, sailors, and Marines that fought in the Civil war were made U.S. Veterans by an act of Congress in in 1957, U.S. Public Law 85-425, Sec 410, Approved 23 May, 1958. This made all Confederate Army/ Navy/ Marine Veterans equal to U.S. Veterans. Additionally, under U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by the 17th Congress on 26 Feb 1929 the War Department was directed to erect headstones and recognize Confederate grave sites as U.S. War dead grave sites. Just for the record the last Confederate veteran died in 1958. When you remove a Confederate statue, monument or headstone, you are in fact, removing a statue, monument or head stone of a U.S. VETERAN.
18 U.S. Code § 1369 - Destruction of veterans’ memorials (a) Whoever, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy, any structure, plaque, statue, or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. (b) A circumstance described in this subsection is that— (1) in committing the offense described in subsection (a), the defendant travels or causes another to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or uses the mail or an instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce; or (2) the structure, plaque, statue, or other monument described in subsection (a) is located on property owned by, or under the jurisdiction of, the Federal Government.
Particularly on the fourth year if it is as he said free to the student if they paid their bills on time.
Not sure about the ownership of the property where the items were removed from.
So if I as a private citizen receive any government largess such as Social Security, drive on government roads, etc. Then I’m a government creature? Boy am I in trouble.
No, not you as as a citizen, but governments and organizations, as a contractual part of accepting federal dollars.
Example, if a local community accepts fed $ to support/
expand a local small airport, but years later, some sleazy real estate developer in cahoots with the town wants to condemn the airport property to build cheap apartments, they often cannot do so.
Schools accepting fed $ agrees not to discriminate in any way in admissions, promotions, retention, etc of students and faculty alike.
This student obviously has a claim of discrimination based on denial of free speech. It’s not one of the “golden” claims, such as race, religion, sex, etc, but it would get him into court.
Be well.
If he, indeed, had a contract, he has a clear breach of contract case, as well...
IANAL, but, to me it appears that Armentrout has bulletproof material for a lawsuit that should result in him owning a good chunk of that leftist "independent Baptist" school:
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FWIW, I have a BS from a Baptist college, as do both of my daughters -- yet, I say,
On that web page, they have an online “chat” feature about their 4th year free.
I’ve used it.
Maybe y’all can use it too.
Wait until Monday when the adults are manning the phones. Those answering over the weekend are students.
No, expelled from his fourth year of tuition free college. He can still attend but he has to pay for it........
Well stated, y’all. (Remember, Down South, more than 5 but less than 15 is “’y’all.” More than 15 is “all y’all”!)
This is an easy to win case, without ever getting to Court. The student’s (Plaintiff’s / “P’s” ) lawyer hopefully would be experienced enough to be able to find out who represents the college, or perhaps an experienced lawyer is on their Board.
P’s lawyer calls the college lawyer on the phone. (As I write this, please remember that there is almost a “script” for this).
Says he represents P, and P has been grievously injured, discriminated against, etc.... and he, P’s lawyer has a very long Summons and Complaint drawn up against the school, all it’s officials, the administrators, the alumni, the janitor, Student Union assistant cafeteria manager, their former part-time landscaper, some other guy etc.”
But, as P’s lawyer “was saying his prayer’s last night, his/ her spouse reminded him/her how wonderful a school PCC is, their history, their standing in the community, the great people who have graduated from there, and that some people may have made a hasty mistake in kicking the kid out of the program/school but their hearts are in the right place......”
(You know where this goes)
“And considering all this, and he/she isn’t sure this is settle-able, but... but... but.... since they have drawn the S & C but not filed it yet, and...”
At this point, the PCC lawyer, who has been aware of his role in this play for the last minute and a half, picks on his / her lines and chimes in and : “Tell you what, (P’s lawyer’s first name) We’re both smart guys. There maybe a way to keep all this unfortunate thing out of the newspapers... the school did nothing wrong.... but... but... but you know how bad and biased those liberal pencil-necked geeks at papers can be... so, ah, you’re not on any Statute of Limitations deadline... so why not just send me a copy of the Summons and Complaint... I’l sit with some people I know at the school... and maybe... just maybe.. we can work out something here... No promises... but you know... when two smart guys like us get together... rather than a bunch of possible hotheads... we may be able to work this out....”
“By the way, my wife saw your wife at Sunday School last week, remarked on how lovely your wife looked in her new dress...”
Yada Yada Yada.
School’s lawyer gets un-filed S&C, tell school they are in deep kim chee... and it all gets resolved in about 6 months... all very quietly...
But the word does get out to the powerful folks in town...
P’s lawyer was the one who “handled that matter so diplomatically.” School’s lawyer was the one who “Got them out of that legal jam they were in...” so both lawyers move up two notches on the totem pole, get more cases, etc.
Like I said... it’s all a well-scripted play, played out a 100 times a week in every jurisdiction. A major US photographic film and photo print paper manufacturer once settled a $35,000,000 IRS matter that way.
Shakespeare was right: “All the world’s a stage, And all the men and women merely players.”
The student has only a few days to get registered for this semester’s term so the school’s lawyer better read fast, speaker faster, and have the check in the kid’s hand in about a week, or it’s “Katy bar the door, we’re going to town and goin’ medieval on the school’s ass and bank account”. (Gee, Ving Rhames really had a way with words. I prefer another version as applied to the hardcore Left, “Let’s go Negan on their asses”.
Batter up!
Exactly.
If set behind a semester, the student’s lifetime earnings are affected.
The check can follow later, but if the school’s lawyer is smart, he’ll get the kid back in school ASAP to minimize the kid’s economic losses, which will eventually be the school’s losses. If he does not want to go to PCC, cash in a few favors and get him in FSU or somewhere else... quickly... and pay the tuition, room and board. The $ can all be settled later.
Likewise, income losses can be calculated by an economist and actuary. The losses for damage to his reputation, emotional pain, etc. are effectively whatever the jury says they are, possibly a lot, possibly zero.
You NEVER want to hand 12 citizens your check and give them permission to fill in the amount.
PS, I think the reason Ving Rhames is so tough is how else but tough is a Black kid named Irving going to make it through high school in Harlem!
:)
Be well.
#54. Even if Ving Rhames name was Irving, who would screw with a guy his size? Sane people really don’t want to know.
His birth name really is Irving Rameses Rhames. He went to SUNY acting school where he roomed with future acclaimed actor/director Stanley Tucci.
Tucci convinced him to change his name to ‘Ving’, because “what director is ever going to cast a big bad ass Black guy character named Irving?”
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