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Free College Is Now Here … Really
Real Clear Life ^ | August 21, 2017 | Richard Klinsky

Posted on 08/21/2017 7:19:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: WASCWatch

In a few more weeks, I will be 61 y/o.
I honestly don’t recall what the tuition was then.
My dad took care of most the tuition, and he did not like to be questioned about how he managed the money from his kids.
I went to a small private college in Columbus, Ohio.
My first year was on schoolarship, with work-study programs available after that. I also got lots of part time jobs at Wendys’, Sears, Shoe stores (Lazarus) print shops and advertising artwork.

The college was about four miles south of Ohio State U. down High Street. This was back when Woody Hayes was there. Central Ohio worshiped the ground Woody walked on.


21 posted on 08/21/2017 8:34:31 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great news! Shared it with everyone!

Good post!


22 posted on 08/21/2017 8:38:26 PM PDT by Boomer (Have RINO republican pols been radicalized somehow?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

there is a charge to take the exams.
The College Board charges $92 to take each of the AP exams and $85 to take each of the CLEP exams.


23 posted on 08/21/2017 8:45:18 PM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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To: ladyjane

“If you went to college twenty years ago you would be shocked if you had to go back and experience it now. You wouldn’t recognize it.”

As someone doing just that, you’re right. The wife and I to school around 1980. I tell her to forget everything she knows about that experience.


24 posted on 08/21/2017 9:09:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“For the first time ever...” Yeah, right.

Edx, Coursera, Udacity and Boundless have been around for five years or more. The problem is that taking online courses is boring. I’ve taken three and wow. Boring.


25 posted on 08/21/2017 9:26:51 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: Ace's Dad

Wish my student had grandpas and grandpas to support him financially ;)


26 posted on 08/21/2017 9:26:57 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MIT professor Dr. Gilbert Strang started the revolution of open courses. I have attended hundreds of lectures on mathematics, I have never been so impressed as I was by his lecture on linear algebra. Dr. Strang is a National treasure. His textbook on applied mathematics should be required reading for every math student in the world.
27 posted on 08/21/2017 9:47:33 PM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: stylin19a

now there is a rip off organization...all the way through and through “The College Board”. Gouging and over pricing, their products, hoops to jump through, red tape and more red tape redundancy, bureaucracy, lousy service! And the over use of the SAT as the “single most reliable” barometer of immediately tossing an application in the trash...well don’t get me going on that.


28 posted on 08/21/2017 9:50:48 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: Falconspeed
MOOC's (Massive Online Open Courses) are a fantastic resource and welcome educational medium, but they should not replace the entire learning experience. The dropout rates of these courses are extremely high. I believe many MOOC learners are professionals (non-degree seeking) who wish to learn about a subject but not commit time and money resources for a 12-week semester.

I like the MOOC option, but agree with you it's not very engaging.

29 posted on 08/21/2017 9:52:32 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does this generate transferable credits, to top rated colleges and universities?


30 posted on 08/21/2017 9:57:44 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The majority of college courses can be taught online at very minimal prices. There are some courses in science and engineering and very particularly the medical field that need hands on experience in labs and with patients. These courses are expensive to provide because of the infrastructure needed to teach this hands on experience. You can not get that experience in front of a computer. There is also an interactive between professor and students that is essential for certain courses. This is expensive.
Most of the other courses can be provided at very low costs.

The real problem with university is it does not respond to market forces due to insane amounts of government largess to students for tuition etc.

For example in 1966 I could earn enough money roughnecking on the drilling rigs in the summer to pay my room and board and tuition for two full semesters. Today if I were a roughneck I could only earn a fraction of what I would need for two semesters of university. Government programs have totally distorted normal market forces relative to the cost of university.

ps
I earned 25 hours of credit by CLEP exams and another 6 hours in aviation (I was a pharmacy student not aviation) due to my commercial aviation tickets.. I bought the books, studied and took the tests. This saved me the cost of a year in university. I was paying and wanted out as quick as possible! It was my money.

It should be noted that I was not a great student when I first went to university. I flunked out and went back to the drilling rigs for 5 years. When I returned to university with a major attitude adjustment, I did well, and acquired a degree in geology and then returned some years later to get a degree in pharmacy. My own individual work paid for all of this. No grants but I did have some small loans that I paid back early.

We live in a great nation! We must not lose it.


31 posted on 08/21/2017 10:24:35 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud-man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, CONSTITUTION WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: truth_seeker

Read the article.


32 posted on 08/22/2017 12:10:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I occasionally take classes from edX. They are free and many are from top notch universities. There are also financial classes for free, can’t remember the site. Even though I’m in the medical field I still like to challenge myself.


33 posted on 08/22/2017 12:50:42 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: WASCWatch
“...For me, tuition started at $169/quarter as a freshman and was up to $209/quarter as a senior in 1975. Room and board was about $1,000 to $1,300/year.”

Yep... My 1970’s college cost for tuition and dorm R&B was on par with yours in my first several years. By 1979 when I graduated with a 2nd degree, the tuition had increased noticeably and book cost had absolutely sky rocketed up. Spent two semesters in dorm living and after that in off campus apartments (all had shuttle vans to campus). Apartment cost split with one room mate was a bit more expensive than the dorm but achievable since I worked full time every summer while living at home.

The bulk of my college (tuition/books + 2-semesters dorm equivalent that I supplemented via my summer job earnings) was funded via a modest trust fund my parents setup by rolling the home equity from a house sale into the trust instead of into the new home purchase. Thank you Mom and Dad... Also, I have no idea how they could know, but it seemed like when things were really tight, like do I pay rent or move home broke, a check for a few bucks would show up from my grandparents to get me over a hump. Thank you, for that as well.

Basically, I have been working jobs (and college is a job too, at least if you want to graduate) since I was 13yo. First as a paperboy then summer jobs while in HS and college. Last couple of years of college I had gotten married and costs had increased to where I had a part time job during the school year at a university research lab plus had a very nice fellowship the summer before graduation.

34 posted on 08/22/2017 1:34:42 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: lee martell

I went to a “good school” and did get a Master’s degree.

I had to read vociferously outside of school to get the education that I wanted, that I couldn’t get in school.

And this was 25 years ago...


35 posted on 08/22/2017 2:01:40 AM PDT by oblomov (We have passed the point where "law," properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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To: oblomov

Lack of coffee. Copiously, not vociferously.


36 posted on 08/22/2017 2:03:47 AM PDT by oblomov (We have passed the point where "law," properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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To: Reddy

“Support” isn’t quite correct. “Help” would be closer to the actual amount. But it does make a difference!


37 posted on 08/22/2017 2:18:30 AM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my airline pilot son!)
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To: mplsconservative

I have read statistics that in today’s college setting, 2 out of 3 Christian students will walk away from their faith during their four year stay. I think to a great extent, it depends where they attend. Our major tech university seems to be a more tolerant faith environment than those focused on liberal arts.


38 posted on 08/22/2017 2:44:14 AM PDT by BelleAl (Proud to be a member of the party of NO! NO more deficit spending and government control!)
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Bookmark


39 posted on 08/22/2017 3:17:10 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Our man in washington

You do realize that will become the price of your “free” education, as it already is across the country. The core acedemic courses that most remember as 100 level have long since been replaced by mandatory indoctrination sessions in progressive ideology. Market forces will drive innovation, but the progressives will not quietly abandon their positions of power.


40 posted on 08/22/2017 3:46:43 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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