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America Is Not a ‘Center-Right Nation’
NYT Op-Ed ^ | 11-1-2017 | Eric Levitz

Posted on 11/03/2017 4:36:30 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot

The Democratic Party has learned to stop worrying and love “big government” liberalism. The party’s top presidential prospects are advertising their ardor for socialized medicine, free public college, universal child care and paid family leave.

Even the party’s moderate senators are now pushing for the same kind of public health insurance option that their centrist predecessors killed in the early Obama years. And the party’s 2018 platform — the consensus agenda that ostensibly unites all Democrats, from Joe Manchin of West Virginia to Bernie Sanders — calls for vigorous antitrust enforcement to prevent mega-corporations from rigging the economy against working people.

The party’s resident “sensible centrists” are horrified: “Has the entire Democratic Party forgotten the words ‘George McGovern’?” they cry. In column after column, they have been imploring their co-partisans to remember a fundamental fact: America is a center-right nation, where nearly 70 percent of voters are moderate or conservative, and just 25 percent are liberal. Over the past eight years, Democrats lost sight of this inconvenient truth — and lost control of more than 1,000 state legislative seats, the House, the Senate and the presidency.

This argument may sound coolheaded and pragmatic. But its core premises — that American voters are hostile to progressive economics and have punished the (increasingly left-wing) Democratic Party accordingly — actually rest on ideological conviction, not empirical evidence.

In truth, the Republican Party’s dominance has little to do with the American electorate’s “center-right” ideology. We know this for two simple reasons: First, the vast majority of that electorate has no ideology, whatsoever. And second, when polled on discrete policy questions, Americans consistently express majoritarian support for a left-of-center economic agenda.

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To prove the first point, the author cite a 1964 essay that said people don't have ideology, they vote for "the one that appeared to best represent their people, a group they might define with reference to class, region, religion, race or partisanship itself."

It is almost a nod to further 'identity politics'?

1 posted on 11/03/2017 4:36:30 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Liberty is the founding principal of the America Republic, and the American people hold to that principal.


2 posted on 11/03/2017 4:38:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
First, the vast majority of that electorate has no ideology, whatsoever. And second, when polled on discrete policy questions, Americans consistently express majoritarian support for a left-of-center economic agenda.

Ummm, it's because the questions are worded so the liberal pollsters get the answers they want.

3 posted on 11/03/2017 4:41:41 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: Sir Napsalot

They say they want leftist policies until they are told their taxes will go up to pay for them.


4 posted on 11/03/2017 4:42:06 PM PDT by brianr10 (Beach Boys forever!)
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...Americans consistently express majoritarian support for a left-of-center economic agenda.

Were all the "Americans" polled US citizens?

5 posted on 11/03/2017 4:42:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Then there is this -

“When we look past ideological self-identification to polling on discrete public policy questions, America appears to be far more center-left than center-right. In a recent analysis of Democracy Fund Voter Study Group survey data, the political scientist Lee Drutman found that 73.5 percent of the 2016 electorate espoused broadly left-of-center views on economic policy.”

Democrats can’t capitalize on the popularity of major progressive public policies is because of a variety of reasons, then the author went off rail into evil Republican talking trope.

That sounds to me like the author is saying More Massaging the Message.


6 posted on 11/03/2017 4:42:48 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The NY Times didn’t seem to want to accept crushng democrat defeats all over the country as evidence.


7 posted on 11/03/2017 4:46:18 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I hope they continue to believe that, as it will only continue to erode their party.


8 posted on 11/03/2017 4:47:16 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Sir Napsalot
read the whole article

Why post nyt trash?

9 posted on 11/03/2017 4:47:44 PM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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Also, nothing at all addressing the erosion of religion, traditions/traditional values, etc.

Just for ‘economic’ reasons, because of polling showed majority favor progressive policies, the author concluded America is not center-right.

Isn’t it used to call ‘tunnel vision’?


10 posted on 11/03/2017 4:48:48 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: T Ruth

Opposition research?


11 posted on 11/03/2017 4:55:18 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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And the party’s 2018 platform — the consensus agenda that ostensibly unites all Democrats, from Joe Manchin of West Virginia to Bernie Sanders — calls for vigorous antitrust enforcement to prevent mega-corporations from rigging the economy against working people. …
Hmm; that sounds familiar. Could this Levitz fellow have gotten it from . . . ?
Corporations grow on every hand, and on every hand not only swallow and overawe individuals but also compete with governments.The contest is no longer between government and individuals; it is now between government and dangerous combinations and individuals. Here is a monstrously changed aspect of the social world. In face of such circumstances, must not government lay aside all timid scruple and boldly make itself an agency for social reform as well as for political control? “Yes,” says the Democrat, “perhaps it must.” …
Of course: Woodrow Wilson and his socialistic pontificating.
12 posted on 11/03/2017 4:55:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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We are not center-right. We are a majority far right population, but with 15% of the population that either belongs in a mental institution or in jail.


13 posted on 11/03/2017 4:58:02 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Sir Napsalot
It's in the New York Times. Anything published in the NYT is written by someone who has no f***ing clue what's going on west of the Hudson River.
14 posted on 11/03/2017 4:58:51 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Hillary for Prison!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

As the dems drive straight off a cliff at warp speed...


15 posted on 11/03/2017 5:02:45 PM PDT by Panhandle.deporable
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To: Sir Napsalot

After WW2, the left set about to get control of education at all levels. After three generations have churned through the indoctrination mills, America is no longer center right. Too many now embrace any method of giving up more control of their lives to government. Women especially so.


16 posted on 11/03/2017 5:05:32 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I used to be center - right. Then I got my first paystub, and I’ve been Right ever since.


17 posted on 11/03/2017 5:06:13 PM PDT by ameribbean expat (Veritas Vincit)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Hmmm.... Interesting that all of those left of center Americans came out in droves to elect Donald Trump.


18 posted on 11/03/2017 5:08:55 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Sir Napsalot

A huge majority of people are conservative....with their own money.


19 posted on 11/03/2017 5:16:14 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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A huge majority of people are conservative....with their own money.

unless you are one of those who can vote themselves an increase in pay, you voted TRUMP. Just look at Detroit, or Venezuela. Or Zimbabwe

20 posted on 11/03/2017 5:35:08 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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