"Maybe the carbon cycle chart I posted was not detailed enough? Some carbon dioxide that gets dissolved in the ocean converts to carbonates that sink to the bottom of the ocean. At the edge of the continental plates, that mass of carbonates is subducted under the opposing plate, where it is dissolved into the hot magma and released in volcanoes as CO2. All of the CO2 cycles through the air and water, although some of the cycles may take thousands or millions of years."
That
was a nice little graphic you posted Mom, but unfortunately it does not prove your point. ALL of the CO2 coming out of the undersea volcanoes I mentioned does not come from subducted limestone. SOME of it comes from that source, but not ALL of it and hence ALL of it has not been cycled through the air and water and hence the oceanic plant life that is busily creating biomass out of this CO2 is not creating biomass out of CO2 that has
ever been in the atmosphere.
Don't believe me that all of the CO2 coming out of volcanoes does not come from limestone, Mom? Of course you don't. I wouldn't expect you to believe anything that might lead to you having to admit to having made an error -- but maybe you, in all of your educated wisdom, could enlighten me... If all CO2 coming out of volcanoes comes only from limestone (your apparent contention,) how would you explain the CO2 spewing volcanoes on Venus where the
atmosphere is ~96% CO2 and where there has never been any life to create any limestone?
Or is Venus too far away for you Mom? Then maybe you could enlighten me as to the concentration of CO2 on this planet
before life appeared and started laying down limestone?
Yep, it looks like your
"All of the CO2 cycles through the air and water" statement is just another Mom attempt at knowing it all while actually not even knowing what she doesn't know.
Shall we continue, Mom?
When I said, would you like to discuss anaerobic life processes, you replied:
"Again, no exception. Anaerobes use biomolecules to form their bodies, and, just as with aerobes, those biomolecules were originally formed from CO2 through the process of photosynthesis."
Well golly gee Mom. here is a link to an article by
Professor G. Jeffrey Taylor, Ph.D at the Hawai‘i Institute of Geophysics and Planetology <
link> that states:
"Recent research on deep rocks on Earth has shown that bacteria can live kilometers beneath the surface. Some bacteria live on nothing but rock and water, extracting energy from chemical reactions rather than from sunlight."
I guess those particular biomolecules Dr. Taylor is describing would be an exception to your statement that all
"those biomolecules were originally formed from CO2 through the process of photosynthesis"
Yep. Once again Mom, we have another exception to your
"No exceptions" statement.
Are you ready to admit to making just one little, itsy-bitsy mistake yet Mom?
Of course you're not, so let's keep going a little longer. It's all just for fun Mom, so lets enjoy this!
Your statements,
"Wonderful. Just keep reminding her that every bit of food on the table was atmospheric carbon dioxide just a few short months ago."
and
"Hmm. Still as true now as it was when I originally typed it. So what if mushrooms or other fungi are in their meal? Fungi, just like everything else, incorporate biological molecules--containing carbon--into their bodies. And regardless of whether their carbon source is fermented animal dung--the usual substrate of commercial mushrooms--or decayed wood, it still originated as atmospheric carbon dioxide. As I said before, no exceptions."
do not disprove my point that the mushrooms busily consuming a dead (several years dead) walnut tree in my backyard were not making use of CO2 that had been in the atmosphere
"several short months ago." That tree has been dead for years and those Turkey Tails (an edible mushroom) are not using CO2 that was in the atmosphere "a few short months ago." That was a poor attempt at misdirection Mom. You tried to pass over the "few short months ago" part and try to tell me that I didn't know that those mushrooms were using food that the tree created by pulling CO2 out of the air. Of course I knew that the tree made use of CO2 from the air. Your error was the "few short months ago" part and alleging that I don't understand the CO2 cycle doesn't make that error go away.
Mom, you're not up to your usually standards tonight. Are you feeling poorly? We could continue this another evening if you wish.
Methinks exDemMom’s hands are tired from typing walls of text a lot here recently. All the deflection + multiple fallacies mixed with a few blatant falsehoods will wear someone with a PhD out faster than you can say, “You lied again”.
Perhaps Mom will be taking a break from making walls of text from now thru the holidays & come back after the 1st of the year with new fallacies to share.
Plus she has her grammar police-person duties that take up a goodly portion of her thinking & time. Poor gal has to be worn out from it all. :)
I wonder what prohibitionists will do when cannabis is legal across the nation in a few years? Will they still be angry that some of their fellow citizens have happy lives because of cannabis?
I mean, depression & anxiety weren’t much fun but I did keep a lot of pharmaceuitical company execs in new cars when I was paying over $700 a month just for medicines for 20+years & now I spend a WHOLE lot less $$$ on my medicine (cannabis) and it actually helps me live a happy & productive life. Perhaps I should send the big wheels at Big Pharma an apology letter.
Funny how that gets on the prohibitionists’ last nerve. :)