Posted on 11/30/2017 8:37:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
DJT is a different ballgame.
Urchin may not have thought this one through. I just hope we have.
“The earth’s magnetic field then accelerates these electrons to near-relativistic speeds”
This alone tells me you don’t know what you are talking about. I don’t mean this as criticism of you. You read this someplace and believed it. It just isn’t true...
A magnetic field will bend (deflect) the path of an electron. It will not accelerate it. It takes an electric field to accelerate an electron.
I think it is the height of stupidity on the part of our government that we haven’t done so yet.
LOL...STFU noob. How long did you have a TS-SCI/Q clearance with DOE/NNSA/OST? I'm one of the few Freepers to work in and around our nuclear forces. What are your credentials on nuclear weapons? I ain't 'fraid of them....and you shouldn't be either.
I used to model nukes for the DoD. Doctorate in molecular physics.
Velocity is a vector, remember?
More than that. A high altitude nuclear burst could potentially wipe out all the electric grid and electronics for hundreds of miles. Which is why containment is the only viable option. Any first strike would have to be against his missile capabilities.
“Your accusation is baseless.”
Incorrect. It’s based on your words.
“And the EMP still goes off, blowing out the US power grid with all that implies. Are you claiming this would be a victory for the US? “
1st off, that’s a logical fallacy. In war you suffer damage/losses even when you win.
If the Norks set off a EMP that causes our power grid to go out, North Korea will cease to exist in it’s present form. America will recover & life will go on minus little rocketman & his worm infested military.
America wins. North Korea loses utterly.
Exactly!
Then you must know that it would take either a very large thermonuclear warhead, or several dozen (or tens of dozens) 100-400kt warheads burst at altitude to get the effect? Even Russia told us they 25MT warheads on their Mod3 SS18s were for taking out LCCs and they wouldn't waste one of them on an EMP.
NORKS may have the pistol, but there is only one round in the chamber.....and its wet.
EMP sending us back to caveman days is beyond hyperbole.
Ping.
Altitude also matters.
On a more ...terrestrial...level, it isn't necessary to do the "one nuke over Kanas" scenario. Think of the French battling the majestic British Navy in centuries past: they couldn't go toe-to-toe, so they'd settle for cannonballs wrapped in chains aimed into the rigging, for a "mission kill".
One EMP over, say, New York, or Boston, or San Fran, could cause a lot of piss and consternation, enough to politically distract the US...say, if China wanted to move on Taiwan?
“There aren’t too many places more remote than my bugout location.”
That pins in down, thanks; I’ll let the gang know when its time ...
Google it. Just because Alex Jones thinks an EMP weapon would destroy civilization doesn’t mean it’s true.
Are you scared by that article? me neither. Why was it written? to scare us. To create a layer of anxiety.
If that were tried, the fat dictator would become dog food.
Cool, you’ll be about 250 years old by the time you find it. Keep popping those vitamins!
Folks make big, sweeping statements all the time, so I gotta ask: what do you base this on?
Do you have some inside information that others lack?
Do you possess knowledge that others do not?
I ask this because your comment is very, very optimistic.
Nope, they weren't smart enough to do that
Most of what I read on this thread is people articulating their hopes.
Well, hope is not a plan.
I foresee *major* problems in impoverished and/or congested urban areas -- and yes, mobs will go out into the suburbs and further out; being attenuated by a number of factors over time and as they spread out.
And forget about being someone with a chronic illness dependent on drugs. You're scewed.
Manuel OKelley Post #50 :" I know from personal experience parts of out power grid are protected with basically giant fuses
and much of it would be brought back online fairly quickly "
"If you want something credible to worry about then worry about the c&c systems of the power grid, banking ssytem, and toher critical infrastructure being hacked
...there is stuff there that should keep you from sleeping well"
Yup, there's that too !
The main public concern has always been essential services, communication, and power supply which operates the infrastructure.
There has always been confrontation between the public sector and government administration, not over the need but over who is going to pay for the upgrade protection.
The discussion should have already been concluded as North Korea has already 'opened the barn door and let the horse out'. It's too late to close the door.
H/T to TADSLOS
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