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NSA deleted surveillance data it pledged to preserve
"Pollutico" ^ | 1-19-2018 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 01/19/2018 8:02:54 PM PST by grey_whiskers

The agency tells a federal judge that it is investigating and 'sincerely regrets its failure.'

The National Security Agency destroyed surveillance data it pledged to preserve in connection with pending lawsuits and apparently never took some of the steps it told a federal court it had taken to make sure the information wasn’t destroyed, according to recent court filings.

Word of the NSA’s foul-up is emerging just as Congress has extended for six years the legal authority the agency uses for much of its surveillance work conducted through U.S. internet providers and tech firms. President Donald Trump signed that measure into law Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: draintheswamp; nsa; surveillancestate; thelivesofothers
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To: grey_whiskers

It’s like the end of the first Bourne movie where they think they can just pull the plug on their pet covert project.


21 posted on 01/19/2018 8:21:09 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: grey_whiskers

Erased my butt. They get the data or they get the pen. Move it.


22 posted on 01/19/2018 8:22:18 PM PST by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: grey_whiskers

What the ever loving ***K. I am so pissed off right now. At My Government.


23 posted on 01/19/2018 8:23:21 PM PST by onona
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To: grey_whiskers

Very interesting that Pollutico (good name!) got a couple of things right lately. They’re seeing which side of the bread is buttered and it ain’t the left side?


24 posted on 01/19/2018 8:24:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Dat wuz some nice data youse had dere. Too bad it got...uh...’lost.’”


25 posted on 01/19/2018 8:29:04 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: grey_whiskers

spoliation of evidence is the intentional or negligent withholding, hiding, alteration or destruction of evidence relevant to a legal proceeding.

A judge will typically instruct the jury to weigh spoliation heavily in determining outcomes — meaning it’s very bad for whoever did the spoliation.

Judges could on their own declare mistrial or automatic civil penalties based on the severity of spoliation.

Now, on these FOI suites the plaintiff is suing for the information. If it’s spoliated ... no penalties are involved and no criminal referrals. That’s why this shit happens. No punishment. Hell, the person who takes the blame will traditionally get a promotion.


26 posted on 01/19/2018 8:32:02 PM PST by Fhios (1987 - Where's Waldo. 2017 - Where's Jeff Sessions?)
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To: high info voter

If we don’t see the American royalty in orange jumpsuits after all this is laid bare, we will know that all this talk about all being equal under the law is nothing more than legal BS.


27 posted on 01/19/2018 8:33:11 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Fhios

Were I the judge, I would jail both the NSA person in court, and their lawyer, for contempt of court; until ALL records were produced.


28 posted on 01/19/2018 8:33:58 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: gaijin

American KGB.


29 posted on 01/19/2018 8:34:23 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: grey_whiskers

NSA=GOOGLE


30 posted on 01/19/2018 8:34:57 PM PST by demsux (The "Mockingbirds" have come home to roost.)
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To: Billthedrill

I’m afraid you’re right.


31 posted on 01/19/2018 8:36:17 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Billyv; bitt; LucyT; Whenifhow; WildHighlander57
Billyv :" It’s not gone, only put in ‘eyes only’ files. Not for those who love the Constitution.
These people live in spy novels.
Six days in May. Three days of the Condor. And ........."

Ping !

32 posted on 01/19/2018 8:37:08 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: grey_whiskers
I don’t believe anything was deleted. The NSA built a massive data storage facility in Utah to store a yottabyte - one thousand trillion gigabytes – of data. They collect copies of every phone call, fax, email sent - in the world.

If they say something was accidentally deleted, it is a lie. If they say something was deleted, it is a lie.

33 posted on 01/19/2018 8:38:45 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: 353FMG

Yep that is where its at


34 posted on 01/19/2018 8:39:10 PM PST by easternsky
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To: buffaloguy
"They get the data or they get the pen"

Which body part are you thinking the pen should be stuck into?

35 posted on 01/19/2018 8:44:36 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: grey_whiskers

Yeah, I like this one too. It’s like the FISA self-reported violations, the erasures were during the 44 admin. And this comes out at an interesting time, is Politico trying to get ahead of the wave?


36 posted on 01/19/2018 8:48:25 PM PST by kallisti (Studies show climate change is primarily caused by white toxic masculinity)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
They get the data or they get the penitentiary.

That better?

37 posted on 01/19/2018 9:06:21 PM PST by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: grey_whiskers
We need to get a grip on this government. They have no fear because there are never any repercussions.

I would think maybe a five year sentence for destroying information. A contempt of court charge. something!

38 posted on 01/19/2018 9:09:59 PM PST by oldbrowser (There is a striking similarity between Islamist, BLM, Antifa, Nazis, anarchists, and the democrats.)
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To: buffaloguy
Har har. I knew what you meant!

I was inspired by the juxtaposition on the page of a photo of Barney Frank waving a pen around, followed a few comments later by your "give them the pen" comment. :-)

39 posted on 01/19/2018 9:19:33 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

When I see an image of Barney Frank I almost get physically ill.

Does that make me a bad person?


40 posted on 01/19/2018 9:52:52 PM PST by Bobalu (12 diet Cokes and a fried chicken...)
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