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To: robroys woman
Yes I read something similar ... that he may have been there for 10,000 years or some such. I actually kind of like that idea.

Sorry to branch into the religious but GHD is actually a very Catholic movie, with Punxsutawney serving as a metaphor for purgatory.

The movie also reminds me of a passage from The Brother Karamazov, which I reproduce here (sorry for the length):

“[The Devil] "This legend is about paradise. There was, they say, a certain thinker and philospher here on your earth, who 'rejected all--laws, conscience faith, and, above all, the future life. He died and thought he'd go straight into darkness and death, but no--there was the future life before him. He was amazed and indignant. 'This,' he said, 'goes against my convictions.' So for that he was sentenced...I mean, you see, I beg your pardon, I'm repeating what I heard, it's just a legend...you see, he was sentenced to walk in darkness a quadrillion kilometers (we also use kilometers now), and once he finished that quadrillion, the doors of paradise would be open to him and he would be forgiven everything...Well, so this man sentenced to the quadrillion stood a while, looked, and then lay down across the road: 'I dont want to go, I refuse to go on principle!' Take the soul of an enlightened Russian atheist and mix it with the soul of the prophet Jonah, who sulked in the belly of a whale for three days and three nights--you'll get the character of this thinker lying in the road...He lay there for nearly a thousand years, and then got up and started walking."

"What an ass!" Ivan exclaimed, bursting into nervous laughter, still apparently trying hard to figure something out. "isn't it all the same whether he lies there forever or walks a quadrillion kilometers? It must be about a billion years' walk!"

"Much more, even. If we had a pencil and paper, we could work it out. But he arrived long ago, and this is where the anecdote begins."

"Arrived! But where did he get a billion years?"

"You keep thinking about our present earth! But our present earth may have repeated itself a billion times; it died out, lets say, got covered with ice, cracked, fell to pieces, broke down into its original components, again there were the waters above the firmament, then again a comet, again the sun, again the earth from the sun--all this development may already have been repeated an infinite number of times, and always in the same way, to the last detail. A most unspeakable bore...

"Go on, what happened when he arrived?"

"The moment the doors of paradise were opened and he went in, before he had even been there two seconds--and that by the watch--before he had been there two seconds, he exclaimed that for those two seconds it would be worth walking not just a quadrillion kilometers, but a quadrillion quadrillion, even raised to the quadrillionth power! In short, he sang 'Hosannah' and oversweetened it so much that some persons there, of a nobler cast of mind, did not even want to shake hands with him at first: he jumped over to the conservatives a bit too precipitously. The Russian character. I repeat: it's a legend.”

14 posted on 02/02/2018 7:56:32 AM PST by jtal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ....)
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To: jtal

“Punxsutawney serving as a metaphor for purgatory.”

Interesting concept. I’ll think about that when I watch it again.


17 posted on 02/02/2018 8:04:07 AM PST by Varda (Liberalism IS hate)
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To: jtal

:: Punxsutawney serving as a metaphor for purgatory. ::

Where would that put Woodstock, Illinois on the “eternity scale”?


24 posted on 02/02/2018 8:22:59 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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