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Oregon Standoff: FBI Agent Fired Second Shot As Lavoy Finicum Exited Truck
Nextrush Free ^ | 3/7/2018 | Nextrush/Self

Posted on 03/07/2018 3:54:55 AM PST by Nextrush

"Gov't experts found that the 2nd shot-as LaVoy Finicum is stepping from his truck-'the defendant is the only person in the core of probability where that shot could have been taken'........."

"Oregon Live" reporter Maxine Bernstein Tweet 3/6/2018

Federal prosecutors think that FBI Hostage Rescue Team agent W. Joseph Astarita fired his second shot as LaVoy Finicum was leaving his truck moments before being gunned down by Oregon State Police.

Assistant US Attorney Paul Maloney said that government experts have determined Astarita was the only person in the "core of probability" where the shot could have been taken.

Agent Astarita is set to go on trial July 24th for lying and only for lying about what happened during the "felony traffic stop" operation where LaVoy Finicum was killed and Ryan Bundy injured.

Ryan Bundy was apparently shot by the FBI agent since one of his shell casings was never recovered and Bundy was x-rayed with shrapnel appearing in the picture hours after the shooting.

The FBI agent's shooting reinforces the notion of Finicum's friends and supporters that LaVoy was trying to draw fire away from the pickup and its passengers as he headed into the snow to be shot dead by the Oregon State Police.

And while its the contention of the OSP that they fired their fatal shots because LaVoy Finicum was reaching for his pocket which contained a pistol, what was Agent Astarita's reasoning for opening fire in the direction of LaVoy and the three passengers in his truck before that?

At the pre-trial hearing in Portland yesterday, US District Judge Robert E. Jones directed the prosecution to have its experts share their methodology used to reach conclusions about Astarita's shooting with defense experts next month.

Prosecutors expressed their concern that such disclosure would be used against their experts at trial.

Judge Jones was responsible for detention of the Oregon Standoff protesters. Jones told Ammon Bundy during a jail cell meeting in Portland in 2016 that he wasn't going to be released. Bundy's lawyer said federal prosecutors told the lawyer that he and the others arrested in Oregon were 'the most dangerous men' they had ever prosecuted.

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1 posted on 03/07/2018 3:54:55 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush
Feds lie? Purjure? Destroy evidence? Obstruct?

That's just a Wednesday hump day.

2 posted on 03/07/2018 4:00:15 AM PST by blackdog
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To: Nextrush
Feds lie? Purjure? Destroy evidence? Obstruct?

That's just a Wednesday hump day.

3 posted on 03/07/2018 4:00:18 AM PST by blackdog
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To: Nextrush

I believe that LaVoy Finicum was murdered


4 posted on 03/07/2018 4:07:31 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: novemberslady
Another sanctioned murder by our SS FBI/ATF mercenaries. Another Waco, another Ruby Ridge....my guess is that the shooter will get a medal and a promotion at the end of all this.

It is a terrible thing when the common man has to tip toe around an armed FBI/ATF agent in fear of your life. It seems as if murdering people, is an ingrained policy in these organizations.

Although Finicum doesn't care..now, he was lucky there wasn't an M1 tank at the curve in the road.

5 posted on 03/07/2018 4:18:08 AM PST by Meadow Muffin
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To: novemberslady

Which is why Joseph Astarita deserves to be bushwhacked the same way. These are the type of left wing scum bag “agents” that enjoy firing on civilians. The feds are loaded with these types. When someone lectures you about gun control, remind them what happened with Lavoy Finicum.


6 posted on 03/07/2018 4:33:10 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Nextrush
"And while its the contention of the OSP that they fired their fatal shots because LaVoy Finicum was reaching for his pocket which contained a pistol"

I've seen the video. It doesn't look like he's going for a gun - it looks like he's clutching his chest because he's just been shot.

7 posted on 03/07/2018 5:15:45 AM PST by circlecity
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To: novemberslady
I believe that LaVoy Finicum was murdered

Police seem to shoot unarmed people all the time and it gets justified by the authorities.

8 posted on 03/07/2018 5:19:35 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I’m trying to recall the photo of Finicum being shot IN THE BACK?


9 posted on 03/07/2018 5:33:47 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: DaveA37
I’m trying to recall the photo of Finicum being shot IN THE BACK?

That's happened in other police shootings that were ruled justified. Doesn't seem to matter anymore.

10 posted on 03/07/2018 5:40:50 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Nextrush

If the government has guns, we must have guns. This is a classic example of why......government overreach.


11 posted on 03/07/2018 5:46:22 AM PST by jch10 (Media: prostitutes for the Democrat Party.)
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To: blackdog
Protected by Sessions. Just another POS AG ala Reno/Holder/Lynch I pray someday we will have a CIC with the balls to put a stop to the DOJ thugs. But it is just a dream.
12 posted on 03/07/2018 5:53:13 AM PST by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: blackdog
Nothing has changed.


13 posted on 03/07/2018 5:54:50 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: novemberslady

Same here.


14 posted on 03/07/2018 6:19:48 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Flavious_Maximus
Which is why Joseph Astarita deserves to be bushwhacked the same way.

Include Lon Horiuchi in that group.

15 posted on 03/07/2018 6:52:01 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Nextrush

The FBI agent’s shooting reinforces the notion of Finicum’s friends and supporters that LaVoy was trying to draw fire away from the pickup and its passengers

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There could be some truth to that, but Finicum was also disobeying commands, repeatedly reaching toward his weapon, and yelling for the police to shoot him.

He’d been telling the police to shoot him since the first stop, well before the FBI agent fired on the truck.


16 posted on 03/07/2018 6:57:30 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: DaveA37

Direct TV had a series on the killing of Finicum being shot in the back.


17 posted on 03/07/2018 7:07:07 AM PST by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: Nextrush
In contrast, the leaders of the riots in Ferguson Missouri were invited to the White House to meet Barak Obama and were provided assistance organizing their riots by the Obama DOJ Community Outreach team.
18 posted on 03/07/2018 7:23:11 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Agreed with many statements being made. The outcome shows how dangerous the situation was for the Bundys from the start. Feds wanted blood from day 1.


19 posted on 03/07/2018 7:39:55 AM PST by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: Nextrush

It seems like premeditated murder to me if Finicum was following orders to exit and was shot anyway. This is what the defense attorneys for the agent don’t want considered in court. Especially given the hostile prosecution hiding the aggressive agents initiating conversations of illegal actions in attempt to ‘heap on’ charges.


20 posted on 03/07/2018 7:57:20 AM PST by RideForever
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