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Good grief, a (too) long, disjointed screed with an attempt to sound 'intellectual'.

WTF does this even mean?

Not to be confused for a totalitarian nostalgist, I would support a kind of socialism that would be democratic and aimed primarily at decommodifying labor, reducing the vast inequality brought about by capitalism, and breaking capital’s stranglehold over politics and culture.

1 posted on 03/07/2018 6:54:05 AM PST by PROCON
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To: PROCON

European socializim was paid for by US military funding for the last 70 years. Anyone familiar with western European token militarily know what I mean. Socializim has never succeeded anywhere without some kind of subsidization somewhere.


90 posted on 03/07/2018 8:55:01 AM PST by D Rider
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From Wikipedia. These people are creating words and phrases out the wazoo.

“Decommodification has been identified as a strategy for sustainable consumption that acts one level up on the institutional context of consumption in Western societies as compared to strategies such as eco-efficiency and eco-sufficiency.”


92 posted on 03/07/2018 8:55:15 AM PST by plain talk
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"It’s time to give socialism a try."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Our tired, depressed nation has been giving unconstitutional socialism a try for the last 80 years (FDR).

I am very satisfied that successful business maverick Pres. Trump is rescuing us from socialism.

95 posted on 03/07/2018 8:57:25 AM PST by Amendment10
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Socialism would make our government-media-university Bolshevik elites into the ultimate class of Robber Barons, giving them a complete stranglehold on the lives of the population and the ability to extract as much value as they like for the benefit of the Ruling Class.

They understand that the first thing they need to do is disarm flyover white Americans. Hence the constant media drumbeat for gun control.


97 posted on 03/07/2018 9:01:09 AM PST by Meet the New Boss
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I doubt this leftist really wants to reduce her masters’ control over politics and culture. She also doesn’t seem to be aware we’ve been trying socialism since the 1930’s.


98 posted on 03/07/2018 9:05:53 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Well she is welcome to practice private socialism at any time. Dibs on her vacation house.

But to reply, it means she is ready and able to have the government commit theft in her name on a much larger scale than you’ve ever feared. It means turning the ownership of businesses either to the government or to a worker’s cadre. It means letting government set prices and wages and strict control over assets and profits. Oh and less manufacture of goods because “envy” and “wealth disparity”. If everyone has to use the same toilet paper then we avoid pointing out the stark differences in our economic classes.

It means she longs for a Stalin to show us the way!


99 posted on 03/07/2018 9:09:54 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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There’s nothing “liberal” about socialism. This chick is ths product of 50+ years of socialist-democrat brainwashing and indoctrination.

If this woman wants a real taste of socialism, she can relocate to a real socialist paradise like Venezuela, mexico, europe, china, cuba, north korea, or zimbabwe.

Of course, the locals would probably kill and eat her, but she doesn’t need to know that. Let her experience socialism in all its glory.


101 posted on 03/07/2018 9:16:23 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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We are already a Socialist Nation.

FDR started the ball rolling and it’s been speeding down hill ever since.


102 posted on 03/07/2018 9:19:43 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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Yeah - socialism may have failed wherever it has been tried, but we know how to make it work....


103 posted on 03/07/2018 9:20:22 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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It’s been tried over a long period of time in numerous countries. They’re virtually all basket cases.


106 posted on 03/07/2018 9:28:08 AM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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So Elizabeth Bruenig knows someone who can make socialism work THIS time?

LOL!

5.56mm


107 posted on 03/07/2018 9:31:34 AM PST by M Kehoe
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Means she would FORCE people to do so, and if they resisted, kill them.


111 posted on 03/07/2018 9:43:17 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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Although our modern socialists' promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under 'communism' and 'fascism'. As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939,
'the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of unfreedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.’
No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

What is promised to us as the Road to Freedom is in fact the Highroad to Servitude. For it is not difficult to see what must be the consequences when democracy embarks upon a course of planning. The goal of the planning will be described by some such vague term as 'the general welfare'. There will be no real agreement as to the ends to be attained, and the effect of the people's agreeing that there must be central planning, without agreeing on the ends, will be rather as if a group of people were to commit themselves to take a journey together without agreeing where they want to go: with the result that they may all have to make a journey which most of them do not want at all.
____________— F A Hayek, The Road to Serfdom (May, 1945 Reader’s Digest Condensed Version)


113 posted on 03/07/2018 9:55:18 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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This means that no one should earn any more than anyone else. The rocket scientist makes as much as the janitor. It’s only fair, comrade! Down with the capitalist pigs!


114 posted on 03/07/2018 9:57:44 AM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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I don't believe anything original has been written about socialism and its airy promises for at least a hundred years now. What changes is the people bleating the same old song, apparently blissfully unaware that we've heard it all before.

She hasn't a clue how capitalism works. Neither did Marx. And frankly neither of them has or had a clue about how socialism works, either. Nobody ends up "equal". The state does not "wither away". Freedom does.

116 posted on 03/07/2018 10:15:57 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Brain in a blender. Wonder if she's ever had a real job in her long life of (I'm guessing) 22 years?

I'm also guessing it would be wise to get her to sign a notarized consent form before having drinks and sex with her.


117 posted on 03/07/2018 10:22:37 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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democrat presidents since roosevelt have been trying. Socialism is a failure. Anyone who proposes it is proposing poverty, misery, and famine.


118 posted on 03/07/2018 10:25:38 AM PST by I want the USA back (My preferred personal pronoun is "Your Majesty.")
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WTF does this even mean?

Flying unicorns, galloping on rainbows across the sky, while pooping free skittles for all the people.

Obviously, the author is a committed, dyed-in-the-wool leftist, who can't be bothered to note that every economic indicator in the country is on the upswing. She wants to 'improve' a system that isn't broken because....fairness. Or something.

120 posted on 03/07/2018 11:18:31 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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We have been trying it and now we’re $20 trillion in debt.


121 posted on 03/07/2018 11:20:58 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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123 posted on 03/07/2018 11:38:32 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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