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Did the Founding Fathers Want Citizens to Have Military Weapons?
Trending Views ^ | 0/10/2018 | Kennon Ward

Posted on 03/12/2018 10:27:53 PM PDT by FrankLea

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To: NorseViking

Interesting on the subject

https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/07/charles-willson-peales-riffle-with-a-tellescope-to-it/


41 posted on 03/13/2018 12:29:47 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Enchante

Better in Black Bean Garlic Sauce!


42 posted on 03/13/2018 1:31:29 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing! Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a doctor and I won't touch that thing)
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To: FrankLea

As I’ve stated elsewhere on this forum, the 2nd Amendment isn’t because we were worried about the deer getting out of control.


43 posted on 03/13/2018 2:09:45 AM PDT by Pecos (Better the one you have with you than the one you left at home.)
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To: FrankLea

Mussel loader? Another idiot who knows nothing.


44 posted on 03/13/2018 2:10:55 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: FrankLea

“I agree full auto has no place in the civilian world.”

Author tells us upfront that they are an idiot.


45 posted on 03/13/2018 2:16:53 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

It’s all fun and games until somebody busts a bivalve in your a... err, backside, lol.


46 posted on 03/13/2018 2:17:05 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FrankLea

At the minimum, the citizen should be armed at the level of the “personal weapon” of the “standing army”!


47 posted on 03/13/2018 2:37:09 AM PDT by RAY (God Bless the USA)
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To: FrankLea

Defensive weapons, all of them, serve a purpose. That purpose is to defend against those who will do one harm... using the left’s “assault weapon” makes their case before our side even starts.


48 posted on 03/13/2018 3:15:36 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: FrankLea

Unbelievable! 22-yr-old Storm Durham tells us about getting fired for having a CCW permit!

https://soundcloud.com/mike-opelka/unbelievable-22-yr-old-storm-durham-tells-us-about-getting-fired-for-having-a-ccw-permit


49 posted on 03/13/2018 3:15:58 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: FrankLea
I agree full auto has no place in the civilian world

Nice to hear from one of our betters what's good for us.
50 posted on 03/13/2018 3:15:59 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: NorseViking

Stop gunsplaining... you are just trying to negate his clams.


51 posted on 03/13/2018 3:18:55 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: FrankLea

Step 1: Enforce existing laws.
Step 2: Punish lawbreakers, up to and including, death penalty.
Step 3: Repeat until the stupid %#*+ get the message that crime doesn’t pay.


52 posted on 03/13/2018 3:27:12 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: NorseViking
-- Mussel loader? --

Reloads at a snails pace.

The "used by the military" test was applied by SCOTUS in the 1939 Miller case. If a short barrel shotgun was of a type used by the military, not only could the feds not ban it, possession could not even be taxed.

In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment, or that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v. State, 2 Humphreys (Tenn.) 154, 158.
Scalia used rank intellectual dishonesty to turn this case on its head when he composed Heller. Under the new test, and unconstitutional restiction becomes constitutional if the courts ignore the issue for long enough. Long standing unconstitution bans become constitutional because they are long standing.
53 posted on 03/13/2018 3:28:53 AM PDT by Cboldt
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54 posted on 03/13/2018 3:30:38 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: FrankLea

Between Mussel loaders and clips, Mr Ward lost me in the first two paragraphs.


55 posted on 03/13/2018 3:36:19 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: FrankLea

I believe at the very least, a citizen should be able to arm himself with the standard military rifle or its equivalent of the current day.


56 posted on 03/13/2018 3:54:56 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: elengr

The author is incorrect on full automatic. Once you start parsing out weaponry, the argument for being a vanguard against tyranny hollows. We are either an armed citienzry able to put down invasions and tyrants, or not. You know the invaders or tyrants will have full auto.


57 posted on 03/13/2018 4:03:39 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: reg45; NorseViking; Impala64ssa
Mussel loader? Load up with some calamari and scungilli over linguine with marinara MMMM!

Mussel loaders were the earliest foray into the development of WWII Flak Guns.

In the 1700s, shards of fired mussel shells would take out anything flying overhead!

≡≡8-O

58 posted on 03/13/2018 4:17:24 AM PDT by Does so (Let's make the word Mohammedism--adding it to other ISMs...)
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To: sten

Exactly


59 posted on 03/13/2018 4:21:12 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: NorseViking

It uses the dreaded 50 cal clam sabot.


60 posted on 03/13/2018 4:25:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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