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To: American in Israel
The church is guilty of listening to someone explain the cliff notes then lecturing endlessly on what they have heard....I'm not sure what you mean by this.

What I know is that the gates of hell will not prevail against God's church. I know that in Christ's church, there is neither Jew or Gentile - but one new man, i.e., a born-again Christian - or if you prefer, 'Believer' in the redemptive work of of Messiah Yeshua. The Lord's promises to physical Israel are irrevocable and those promises, and life as we know it, will culminate in the 2nd coming of Yeshua.

Do you realize that the New Jerusalem will be an exclusive Jewish suburb?

Scripture, verse ??

29 posted on 03/26/2018 4:44:26 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord
Do you realize that the New Jerusalem will be an exclusive Jewish suburb?

Scripture, verse ??

It seems you put me in a bit of a quandry. At first I just felt like blowing you off, judging you as someone that really did not care, but just wanting to call a bluff by asking me to do your homework for you. But then I felt that is unfair of me to judge you of what so many trolls use as a front line defense, I don't actually know you, and with a tag like JesusIsLord, well...

The answer you request is no simple one. Unfortunately I am on the road and I am limited to one book to carry for study. This leaves me with no easy way to pre-digest the scriptures for you and regurgitate your answer in a cup of babyfood.

This is meat, not milk. If I were to attempt this in anycase, and I find it quite distasteful contemplating, it would take me about a week of study to write a paper that is suitable for the task.

Yet the spirit prompts me to take you seriously. Why, I cannot tell. So, after sleeping on it I woke up and, Ta-Da, with His help I have my answer, and yours!

The reference book I, and conversely you, need is this:

The footsteps of the Messiah>

If you are as serious as your user name indicates, buy this book and read it. I have read it three times, the third with my wife. We read a bit together in the mornings that I can visit her at home. (I read, we share our thoughts, its a couples bible study thingie)

It is the best book on eschatology I have come across, quite enjoyable if you like the end times sort of thing.

After you have read it, you will understand my first point of cliff note regurgitation study as a church practice and the sharing of the baby cup. You will have actually sat down to a full meal of meat. Let the Lord feed you as He will. You will prove yourself by making the effort to lift the meat from the plate to your mouth. If that effort is too much for you, then look up the chapter and verse on sloth where it mentions not to feed the lazy.

If you are serious about your faith, I promise it will be worth your time and money. While I do not agree fully with the classic interpretation of the timeline of the seals, trumpets and bowls, you must at least have the approved mainline teaching under your belt to begin to be able to understand and defend your position on anything that departs from the main line. However the references that describe the end times promises to the Jewish people that you seek are all in there, very well laid out. There are about 20 chapter and verses for you.

The secret of the Bible, is that it is magic. It is unlike any book on earth, it is written by God through the divine inspiration of man. As such, there is many layers. To read it in classic church terms, you just skim the surface. To really understand it you have to read it again, and again until the different pieces and parts begin to come together in your soul. The classic Jewish interpretation is that there are many layers to scripture. To dig down into the layers takes study. You cannot understand the second layer if you do not understand the foundation of the first.

How can I speak with you about the problem of lust and why that affects your spiritual life if you do not first understand the difference between the spirit, soul and body? You must first read of them and conceptualize the three, then and only then do you have the tools to understand the next layer.

Just for reference, in the Jewish Orthodox perspective, all scripture has 70 layers.

Me, as a gentile am lucky to get three deep. It is said that in history only three Rabbi's have been able to teach on all 70 layers in any place in the Tanach. The Rabbi you mention was one of the three.

So... buy the book, AND READ IT, then get back to me and we will have FUN discussing the end times. I have toured the western united states teaching from the pulpit of many churches on the end times. Guess what, it is closer than you think and farther at the same time.

So if your not a Troll, but are serious here is a tip of the hat to a possible new best friend.

31 posted on 03/27/2018 7:14:56 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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