Posted on 04/02/2018 9:27:30 AM PDT by PROCON
The full-sized M17 vs. the more compact M18. The guns use the same interchangeable fire control unit and magazines– either flush-fit 17-round or 21-round extended mags. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)
A report says the nation’s seagoing branch will go with the smaller version of the Army’s Modular Handgun System, the Sig M18, to replace legacy 9mm pistols.
The Navy currently uses the M9, a variant of the Beretta 92F shown above, and the M11, a more compact pistol based on the Sig Sauer P228. The new M18 will replace both. (Photo: U.S. Navy)
The Navy will phase out its current M9 and M11 handguns with the M18, the smaller-framed version of the Army’s newly adopted handgun. The MHS winner, based on the Sig Sauer P320 family, can utilize two different-sized frames, the full-sized M17 and a more compact M18. While the Army is issuing the gun in a kit with both frames and one interchangeable plug-and-play fire control unit that makes up the guts of the handgun, the Navy will go with just the single M18 frame.
Navy spokesman Ben Anderson told Military.com that “money has been allocated for contracting this year, with delivery to the Navy to commence in FY19” for some 60,000 pistols.
The Navy currently uses the M9, a variant of the Beretta 92F, and the M11, a more compact pistol based on the Sig Sauer P228. While the M18 is slated to replace both, there is no word on if other platforms used in smaller numbers by Naval Special Warfare units such as the Mk23 and Mk24 pistols — .45ACP guns made by Heckler & Koch — as well as various unit-purchased Glocks, and the Mk25 — a navalised version of the Sig P226 in 9mm — will be replaced by the new Sig as well.
All branches of the U.S. Armed Forces have placed orders for the M17/18 Modular Handgun System, according to Sig Sauer.
I haven’t held a P365, just seen pictures. I don’t need something smaller than a Glock 43 for CC. My question to you since you held one is was it ‘thinner’ than the 43? I am relatively small framed and for CC I want thin for IWB carry.
According to specs, it is 0.04” wider than the Glock (which may be the slide) but it felt very small and not blocky at all. I’m pretty slim, and wouldn’t have a problem concealing in an IWB.
Good to know, thanks
Why are we buying this Euro-crap? Every time they have a little war we have to go in with our AMERICAN designed and manufactured weapons to save them. I just don’t understand it.
John Moses Browning Enough said.
The question is not “why SIG” but why the Navy needs 60,000 new pistols.
“The Beretta was and is a great pistol.”
Not for combat it isn’t. Marines I know dumped their Berettas and got themselves a 1911 whenever possible. Marine armorers couldn’t keep up with demand by rebuilding their old stock 1911s for their Marines and requests from other branches SOQ troops. The Marines finally bought 15,000+ brand new 1911s built to their specs from Colts MFG.
I still shoot clays and have watched as other shooters had issue after issue with their Beretta O/Us. My old Browning Superposed just keeps chugging along... I shoot in the mid-low 90s @ late 60’s
You have some concern about our armed forces actually being “armed?”
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Do you remember Clinton sending troops to Haiti with M-16s and no magazines?
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My winter carry is HK P30 sk L E M trigger under my jacket. Summer with a tee shirt it’s a Walther pps. I wear both in crossbreed IWB holsters. I try to carry in a way that there is no printing. Both have great triggers. When my attire allows a SW Commander 45 in a Ulysses shoulder rig is nice. I get told you have to make a solid choice and stay with it. My answer is “you aint carrying you lose”. Practice more. Gun free zones will get you killed. Be alert and be safe.
I know only what I have read or seen on TV about combat but I do know guns. Yes the Beretta and just about all Berettas are great guns. Among the best finished and best working of all.
I taught skeet at the University of Southern Mississippi. I used a Beretta for a lot of my demonstrations. It was a semi auto. I could not have asked for a better shotgun.
One of my students was a Missippi State Champion and he had a Citori four barrel set. I would love to have had it but my Beretta performed just as well.
Maybe my favorite gun of all time was a Beretta model 70 .22 LR. I bought it in Tulsa in 1974.
I have never had a Beretta fail in any way and I have been shooting all my life.
Tokarevs had it decades ago ...
“the nation’s seagoing branch will go with the smaller version of the Army’s Modular Handgun System”
Because everyone knows that sailors have smaller ... “hands”.
While the Army is issuing the gun in a kit with both frames and one interchangeable plug-and-play fire control unit that makes up the guts of the handgun, ....
Does anybody else think this sounds kind of wasteful? Each of these "kits" will end up having a frame, and I assume, a barrel and slide that will end up not being used?
I’ve been seeing quite a few small lots of military/police trade-in Beretta 92FS for sale on-line for the last year or so.
Aim Surplus is currently selling them for $309.95. J&G Sales has some for $279.95.
I hope they sell ‘em. That said, I’m sure quite a few are “rode hard and put up wet”.
CC
No, they’re striker fired.
CC
I stand corrected. Being old school I was pulling for the FNX 45 that one has a hammer and a bigger bullet.
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