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To: Morgana

I must have skipped a chapter - when did transgender people start regarding feminists as the enemy?


10 posted on 04/28/2018 6:28:56 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

I’m confused about that part as well.
Maybe some Antifa wannabe ‘got a hair up someplace’ because a feminist expressed something in terms the Antifa dude would not have chosen to use. Thus making this feminist, lo ALL feminists THE ENEMY forevermore!!
Very myopic, reptilian type of thinking.


14 posted on 04/28/2018 6:37:42 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Steve_Seattle

There are three major elements / factions on the women’s side:

The lesbians bullied by transgenders

There are feminists who say a dude in a dress isn’t a woman, you are a mentally ill man who is still sexually attracted to women. But he says he’s a lesbian (because he says he’s a woman and sexually attracted to women).
Transgender activists (along with way too many liberals) are bullying lesbians into having sex with these dudes, how dare you NOT have sex with them.
So there are a lot of lesbians who hate these crazy dudes because they’re already out of sync with general society and now being shamed/shunned/abused for not going along with the supposedly even more victimized transgender.

The feminists who say you aren’t a member of the tribe

Traditional feminists are complaining about the men, with or without plumbing, winning women’s awards and haven’t even been women for years. Mr. Jenner is one. A dude who hit the top of tech before becoming a woman and then got the title of top paid woman in tech a couple years ago is another. Or the complaints that these men, even after transitioning, have an unfair advantage and dominate women’s sports, so women aren’t good enough in categories segregated to give them a fair chance.

The feminists concerned entirely with safety

The “just give them a place to pee” bathroom bills are a LIE. It is a wedge issue to get the camel’s nose under the tent.
IT IS NOT JUST THE BATHROOMS.
When you say the dude in a dress is a woman and can use women’s spaces, he can use the women’s changing room, locker room, showers. He can sleep in the women’s dorm, stay in women’s prison, and has full access to the women’s shelter. And if you’re opposed due to privacy concerns or the risk that a rapist or abuser would take advantage of this loophole, you’re called a bigot or worse.
I would say most feminists against transgenders are in this category. If you have spaces segregated for women’s literal safety and privacy, then saying “well, if you say you’re a woman, that’s fine” is an open door to violations by crazy dudes and violent ones.


17 posted on 04/28/2018 6:52:46 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Steve_Seattle

Lesbians and trans hate each other. In their world attention and special rights are a zero sum game. The more one group gets the less left over for other groups. Plus lesbians don’t consider trans to be women.


18 posted on 04/28/2018 7:26:16 PM PDT by redangus (actually hit her?)
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To: Steve_Seattle

“I must have skipped a chapter - when did transgender people start regarding feminists as the enemy?”

Simple. Bad as feminists are, they’re still real women, with normal, entirely legitimate female privacy needs for themselves and their (real) female daughters while going to the toilet or showering. That’s perceived as a deadly threat by “transgender women,” who’re real male weirdos trying to get into women’s bathrooms and showers.


22 posted on 04/28/2018 8:07:30 PM PDT by libstripper
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