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To: BBell

“Dealing with conservatives is like dealing with terrorists. You have to be right 100% of the time. If you are wrong once, you are dead to them.”

That’s not true. A lot of us conservatives are pragmatists. We’ve just gotten burned too many times to not be cynical about holding our noses and voting for some non-conservative moderate.

Some of us were very nervous that Trump was not a long-term ideological conservative. However, he’s performed more like a conservative than ANY president in my lifetime including Reagan.

He has kept his promises more than any politician I can recall.

Glad that Levin and people like myself were proved wrong and Trump is our president. I, unlike Levin, jumped on the bandwagon when it was apparent that he was going to beat Cruz.

The problem you are frustrated by is not conservatism; it is perfectionism which translates into ideological purism in politics. Sometimes this is a greater threat to success than the opposition.


45 posted on 06/11/2018 5:27:05 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: unlearner
Thank you for the nice thoughtful reply! I was expecting worse. I don't have a problem and I'm not frustrated by conservative. I am a gray area person as opposed to a black and white type so I am more likely to cut people slack when they screw up or disagree. Everyone does at some point. I like to hear people out rather than right them off. Some folks on both sides just can't. I call them wing-nuts and they come in all colors.

There are some folks here that cannot cope with dissent or disagreement. I don't mind. I am a bit socially liberal, a bit mind you, as I have had a lot of good experiences with some folks that most here would not associate with. It's more enjoyable to have a nice healthy debate or argument than it is to call each other names and walk away. I have not always been this way, not by a long shot.

I also don't drink and post anymore which makes me less aggressive and more pliable. I miss my drunk drinking buddies. We had some pretty wild animated debates when we were drinking but we were always fine when we walked away. Or at least the next day, or week...

61 posted on 06/11/2018 5:59:56 PM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: unlearner

I am a highly principled conservative, and I decided to vote for Trump the day he announced.

I think that qualifies as common-sense pragmatism.


102 posted on 06/11/2018 11:58:20 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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