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Tip: Pentagon Covering Up Fact That Female Officers Nearly Sank Navy Ship
The Other McCain ^ | 17 June 2018 | Roibert Stacy McCain

Posted on 06/19/2018 3:34:19 PM PDT by Rummyfan

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To: cpdiii

Forgot to add this about my sons tours of duty. He absolutely loves A-10 and Apache Pilots. They would rain down hell on the bad guys. Those guys saved many good guys lives.

The only thing wrong with the A-10 is it does not have United States Army painted on its side.


41 posted on 06/19/2018 4:34:31 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: RedMonqey

> “Is this true or are you just spreading gossip because it sounds good?”

The original proposal for the bridge design said they were going to use an all-woman design team to meet diversity quotas. There are several bits of articles out there (before the bridge collapsed) that interviewed the women on the team. One woman cited was at the bridge moving and was interviewed less than a week before it fell down.

After the collapse, the woman who was interviewed said she had nothing to do with it. The company who designed it also backed away from claiming it was an all-woman team. Because of that, the “fact checkers” have said it did not happen.

So we are left with two possibilities. Either it was designed by an all-woman team and collapsed because of incompetence, OR, the people involved deliberately lied about women being involved so they could meet diversity standards even though they never intended to use them.


42 posted on 06/19/2018 4:37:34 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: RedMonqey

It was released a week or two after the collapse. It was an all woman engineering company. As I recall the story it was not their first failure


43 posted on 06/19/2018 4:38:19 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: RedMonqey

http://sandrarose.com/2018/03/diversity-fail-women-engineering-team-behind-collapse-miami-pedestrian-bridge/


44 posted on 06/19/2018 4:42:04 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Rummyfan

And seven sailors died.


45 posted on 06/19/2018 4:43:40 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: dsc

Neck strength alone should disqualify any woman.


46 posted on 06/19/2018 4:44:11 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: House Atreides
The INCOMPETENT PILOT JOHN MCCAIN was not washed out. Perhaps the fact that his father and grandfather were admirals had something to do with it.

Well... yeah.

47 posted on 06/19/2018 4:44:41 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Obadiah

The best astronaut to land on another planet or moon would be a female. Because female drivers can hit any object in their way.


48 posted on 06/19/2018 4:46:40 PM PDT by entropy12 (1 Mil Daca is the shining object to hide 30 mil low quality LEGAL immigrants in last 25 years)
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To: Boiler Plate
Yellowbeard!


49 posted on 06/19/2018 4:48:14 PM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: Obadiah

or Chinese.


50 posted on 06/19/2018 4:49:16 PM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: PIF

Alpha females, gay or straight, spat. I was in the Corps. The women Marines use to fight,not physically, over petty stuff.


51 posted on 06/19/2018 4:51:50 PM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: Rummyfan

Nothing surprises me about female integration in the workplace. Thanks to Affirmative Action a quota on all jobs funded by the government must be met. I’ve been on several jobs where a female was hired to hang out in the office leaving the job site one man short. Many times it either takes two women to do the job of one man or a woman must have the help of a man because the physical ability requires the strength of an ordinary guy. That isn’t to say there aren’t some women who are physically strong enough but they also need the agility and reflexes that are generally common in men who gravitate to those kinds of work.


52 posted on 06/19/2018 4:53:47 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: DesertRhino

I think in the case of the McCain collision, it was poor training combined with what sounds to me like poorly designed software.

I lay it squarely at the feet of the Captain of the McCain...I laud him for wanting to give his crew a bit of a break, but that isn’t the time for it, entering the busiest sea lane in the world without his experienced Sea and Anchor detail manning the stations.

A key component of leadership means compelling people to do things they would rather not do due to fatigue or laziness.

That said...I feel some sympathy for that young sailor. Sure, he should have spoken up if he didn’t know the job well enough. And the military does heap responsibility on young people often at the cusp of when they are ready for it. Most of the time they rise to the occasion, and no young man worth his salt wants to be seen as the “weak sister”. Not a good thing, but that is how a lot of young guys are.

I fault his superiors for putting him into that situation. Now he has to live with it.


53 posted on 06/19/2018 5:03:59 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Nifster

Thanks


54 posted on 06/19/2018 5:05:06 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing thSome Fe plowing for those who didnÂ’t.)
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To: TXnMA; House Atreides

Thanks for the ping TXnMA....much appreciated.

When I heard this earlier, it reminded me of the Kara Hultgreen fiasco right off the bat.


55 posted on 06/19/2018 5:05:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: RedMonqey

No, it’s the fault of the broads. Chauvinism was a global policy for centuries, for a reason.


56 posted on 06/19/2018 5:08:06 PM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Pravious

Thank you. Tried to search for the Snopes article but the site have removed all mention of it. Or I’m just bad at research

Hmmmmmmmm.....


57 posted on 06/19/2018 5:11:36 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing thSome Fe plowing for those who didnÂ’t.)
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To: jim_trent

Thank you again.

Somebody once said:

“Incredible claims need incredible evidence.”

Or something like that(I probably mangled this interpretation )


58 posted on 06/19/2018 5:15:29 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing thSome Fe plowing for those who didnÂ’t.)
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To: Reno89519; House Atreides; RedMonqey; TXnMA

I disagree that the sex of the officers in question has no relevance. I think it is extremely relevant.

And it doesn’t mean women can’t do some of these jobs like manning a watch station or being an OOD. (I am not going to bring up the physical, logistical, or unit cohesion issues since they don’t necessarily have a DIRECT bearing on THIS.)

When you look at it through the light of affirmative action, what it does mean is that in the pursuit of ‘diversity’ being an OOD ceases to be a military function on a naval vessel and becomes the focus of how many people in your command have qualified as an OOD.

Don’t you think for a second that this Navy does not monitor those things...how many of your female officers have qualified as an OOD? I will bet money there is pressure on the Captains to produce results that the Navy can tout.

I have to disagree with you. It isn’t because a given woman can’t do that job which is not strictly a physical but a mental job, it is because the focus is not on the QUALITY of the process the produces an OOD, but how many females meet the OOD qualifications in a deployment.

That is what killed Kara Hultgreen. I find it offensive, and it makes me angry.


59 posted on 06/19/2018 5:16:24 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Pravious

The Army did it right. They made it so females can go to “Ranger School” and make a new soldier with a male candidate. That’s bang for the buck by replication of soldiers. So with a female, you get one now and one later....I don’t think that’s how it’s supposed to work.


60 posted on 06/19/2018 5:20:45 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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