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Illinois Court Strikes Down School Zone Gun Ban as Unconstitutional
Gun Watch ^ | 26 June, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/26/2018 5:03:11 AM PDT by marktwain



In People vs Green, an Illinois appelate court struck down a state law banning  guns within 1,000 feet of a school.  The court relied on a previous decision that struck down a ban on guns within 1,000 feet of a park.

Quovadis Green was observed across the street from a school. He was wearing his security guard uniform and had a holstered pistol on his belt. He moved into and out of a van. A teacher, Dan Svoboda, noticed him and notified an assistant principle. The principle approached green and and asked if he was a police officer. Green said no, that he was a security guard. Svoboda called 911 and reported a "man with a gun".

Green moved the van to another side of the school. When the police approached him they found he had an empty holster and an unloaded Glock pistol in a cooler.  A magazine with 16 rounds of ammunition was found on the floorboards of the passenger seat.

Green was convicted of unlawful use of a weapon (UUW), presumably because the magazine was not in a container. Green possessed a valid Illinois Firearms Owner Identification Card. Firearms are allowed to be transported in Illinois if they are unloaded and in a container. The Illinois Supreme Court had struck down the UUW law as unconstitutional, in Moore. Green was convicted of UUW within 1,000 feet of a school, a separate law.

Another case, Chairez, was pending while Green appealed. In Chairez, the Supreme Court of Illinois found that a statute banning firearms within 1,000 feet of a park was unconstitutional.  Citing Chairez, the Illinois appellate court ruled that the ban on guns within 1,000 feet of a school was also unconstitutional under the Second Amendment. From the decision:

¶ 23 In arguing to the contrary, the State cites Heller, in which the Supreme Court stated that nothing in its opinion “should be taken to cast doubt on *** laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings,” which it described as “presumptively lawful.” District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 626-27, n.26 (2008). But the State conflates regulations banning the carriage of weapons in certain sensitive places (e.g., schools and government buildings) with subsection (c)(1.5), which bans carriage near those places. This distinction is significant. A ban on firearms in specific places imposes less of a burden on the right to bear arms than one that extends to an area of approximately three city blocks around those same places. While a gun owner can simply choose not to enter locations deemed sensitive, it is manifestly more difficult to avoid areas within 1000 feet of those locations, particularly given that there is no notification where the restriction zone begins or ends. Indeed, the ban at issue here, just as the ban 1000 feet around public parks at issue in Chairez, effectively operates as a total ban on the carriage of weapons for self-defense outside the home in Chicago. See Chairez, 2018 IL 121417, ¶ 55.3 As such, it runs afoul of Aguilar, in which the supreme court held that the right to carry firearms is particularly important when traveling outside the home. Id. (citing Aguilar, 2013 IL 112116, ¶¶ 19-20). 

¶ 24 For these reasons, we conclude that sections 24-1(a)(4), (c)(1.5) and 24-1(a)(10), (c)(1.5), prohibiting possession of a firearm within 1000 feet of a school are facially unconstitutional. We further hold that this portion of the challenged statute is severable from the remaining provisions of the statute. See id ¶ 62

The Court goes on to write that laws that ban the carrying of guns in areas precisely adjacent to schools might be constitutional, and would have to be tested in the courts.

 The logic applied to the bans of guns within a 1,000 foot of a park or a school apply equally to the clearly unconstitutional Federal Gun Free School Zone ban enacted first in 1990, then again in 1995 with minor modifications, when the first law was struck down in 1995 by the U.S. Supreme Court in U.S. v. Lopez.

In Lopez, the Court struck down the gun ban on the grounds the federal government did not have the power to enact it under the Commerce Clause.

In 1995 the same law, very slightly modified, was reenacted under strong lobbying by the Clinton administration.

I suspect the 1995 law will eventually come to the attention of the U.S. Supreme Court. Federal prosecutors seem to have been hesitant to charge people under the 1995 law, perhaps for this very reason. The current court has been hesitant to take Second Amendment cases ever since McDonald was heard eight years ago.

President Trump may have an opportunity to change the court from its current make up of four devout leftists, four mostly originalists and textualists, and the swing vote, Justice Kennedy. Ruth Bader Ginsberg is showing her years. Rumors of retirement float around Justice Kennedy. A replacement of either with an originalist and textualist such as Justice Gorsuch could tilt the court back toward the rule of law as it is written.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; education; il; illinois; schoolzone; secondamendment
The federal gun free school zone act was struck down once as unconstitutional, because it was not interstate commerce.

It should be struck down again under the Second Amendment.

1 posted on 06/26/2018 5:03:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The federal gun free school zone act was struck down once as unconstitutional, because it was not interstate commerce.


It is interesting that the Commerce Clause - the camel’s nose that took over all state’s rights was ruled on a case where a farmer grew wheat for his own use (to feed his live stock). Since the government set limits on how much wheat could be grown he was fined. The case ended up in the Supreme Court and the court sided with the government.

Since then the Federal government is allowed to regulate almost everything regardless if the end product crosses state laws - This is a ruling that should be overturned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn


2 posted on 06/26/2018 5:26:15 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: marktwain

More and more I see the world through the lens of “How did this stupid law happen in the first place?”

And it all boils down to female suffrage.

Lot of folks see it too, even the conservative women I talk to.

Anything regarding children, safety, or feelings is an uphill legislative battle for our side.

Any person who bases their decisions on emotion should be precluded from voting, IMO.


3 posted on 06/26/2018 5:29:09 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Get off my lawn and GTFO of my country.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Wickard v Filburn needs to be overturned.

Now.

L


4 posted on 06/26/2018 5:32:19 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: marktwain

The problem in a nutshell: If I live in a house directly across the street from a public school, these unconstitutional laws are saying that I can’t posses a gun on my property, carry it to my car, etc.

It makes my home a “second amendment free” zone. Lawmakers are either dumb, or think we are.


5 posted on 06/26/2018 5:55:11 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: marktwain
You just have to pull for a guy named Quovadis.

Quo Vadis - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0043949/

6 posted on 06/26/2018 6:09:43 AM PDT by moovova
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To: robroys woman

It is a game, as my legal instructor likes to say. I have a ccw so can be within, but not on except in my car, 1000 feet if a school in my state, Colorado. If a ccw friend from New Mexico visits and we go for a drive, by federali law I cannot drive past a school.
Few people know this but the high school next to a park near me leases part of the park parking lot which means DURING SCHOOL HOURS that part of the parking lot is school property. After class it is not.
A ccw can have a gun IN THE CAR on school property. Get out to walk ti the trunk to secure it is a violation of the law.


7 posted on 06/26/2018 6:25:33 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: bravo whiskey

When I was a kid in the 1960’s, my public school taught me “what life was like in the USSR”. I remember as a kid asking myself, “why don’t the people fight back? How can they live day to day in this prison of a country?”

I’m an adult now and look at the laws under which we live. It’s incremental. We just get used to our freedoms being chipped away until we end up in a ludicrous situation like the one you describe in your post.

But we all just adjust to the new laws, as Dagney Taggart tried to do throughout Atlas Shrugged. We simply have too much comfort to lose. And the government tries to keep it that way.

But I gave up TV back in 1997 and have no been spoon fed what I’m supposed to believe. I see the US as a “kinder and gentler” USSR. They don’t “disappear” people to gulags. Rather, they raid your mom and pop business for “structuring”, or confiscate any cash in your car in a pullover because, well, if you have a lot of money on you it means you are up to no good.

And then you live on the street or, possibly, join the largest prison population in the world.

Yeah, We’re the good guys...


8 posted on 06/26/2018 6:32:41 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: marktwain

“Federal Gun Free School Zone ban enacted first in 1990...”

Another filthy Bush legacy.


9 posted on 06/26/2018 7:23:09 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: marktwain

“Federal Gun Free School Zone ban enacted first in 1990...”

Another filthy Bush legacy.


10 posted on 06/26/2018 7:23:09 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: marktwain

And a third court decision reported today for America!


11 posted on 06/26/2018 7:35:02 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: marktwain

GOOD!


12 posted on 06/26/2018 9:18:30 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: marktwain; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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13 posted on 06/26/2018 10:01:39 AM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is an Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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To: marktwain

Is this really the return of sanity, or is it a second-intention attack?


14 posted on 06/26/2018 10:47:25 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc

Is this really the return of sanity, or is it a second-intention attack?


It is a prelude to sanity, if we can get another originalist and textualist on the US Supreme Court. The court has not been willing to take significant Second Amnedment Cases, with the possible exception of Caetano, since McDonald.

If not...


15 posted on 06/26/2018 2:36:05 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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