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1 posted on 07/16/2018 7:40:09 AM PDT by davikkm
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Political ideology killed tens of millions more people in the 20th century alone then all the “religious wars” combined.


2 posted on 07/16/2018 7:41:44 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (2016: For the first time since 1984, I voted for a Rep President all other votes were anti Dem)
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Depends on the teaching of the particular religion or political ideology.

I can tell you which one is more powerful: Religion.


3 posted on 07/16/2018 7:42:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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PEOPLE, in general, need to be watched. Religion is less dangerous, Id say because you have the word itself to throw into the faces of anyone running off the reservation, in the matter of Jews and Christians. In the matter of Islam...well, those words speak for themselves.


4 posted on 07/16/2018 7:44:20 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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Communism and Islam are the bloodiest philosophies in history.


5 posted on 07/16/2018 7:44:43 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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“What’s More Dangerous, Religion or Political Ideology?”

They are far more dangerous when melded together such as global warming as both a religion and political ideology.


6 posted on 07/16/2018 7:45:27 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Zealotry


9 posted on 07/16/2018 7:46:44 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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Have to define these terms. I think that for many people politics has become their religion. Geertz wrote “A religion is a system of symbols which acts to establish powerful, pervasive, and long-lasting moods in men by formulating conceptions of a general order of existence and clothing those conceptions with such an aura of factuality that the moods and motivations seem uniquely realistic.” To me the dreams of the political left are just such a system of symbols.


11 posted on 07/16/2018 7:48:02 AM PDT by babble-on
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Neither; it’s people.


13 posted on 07/16/2018 7:49:30 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.)
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They are equally dangerous when in the hands of
True Believers.


14 posted on 07/16/2018 7:49:53 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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...religion has inspired people to commit some of the obscenest atrocities in human history; The Crusades...

The Crusades were a RESPONSE to the Mooslim horde invasions, which you didn't mention, Skippy.

17 posted on 07/16/2018 7:51:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600><p>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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It depends on what religion you espouse. Jesus is the Prince of Peace, teaching His followers,”Blessed are the peace makers, for they shall be called the children of God.” Islam instructs its adherents to kill those who will not submit to Islamic rule. There is a world of difference.


18 posted on 07/16/2018 7:51:48 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Without asking which Religion or Political Ideology, the question is pointless.
Most religions don't do mass killings but there is one that does.
Most political ideologies don't wipe out large segments of their own population but there is one that does.
Hint: They are the most popular religion and ideology among the Left.

19 posted on 07/16/2018 7:52:30 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Political ideology is religion.


21 posted on 07/16/2018 7:54:51 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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Tribalism.


22 posted on 07/16/2018 7:55:22 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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Neither one is “bad”, we just all need to mind our own business.

People who rail against Religion, have a penchant on wanting to do things the Bible frowns upon. Or, college has pounded into their heads that people and government are what counts, and everything else is a “fable”.

People join political parties or ideologies based on the ones that agree with what the individual wants and needs.

But rub enters when atheists want everyone to believe, or not believe, like they do...and if you don’t, you’re a ignorant, bigoted, redneck.

And, when one groups harbors hate for another that doesn’t share their ideology.

If we would all mind our own business, worship (or not) where we want, and vote how we please, we’d be much better off.

If you attack me - a Trump supporter - in a restaurant, it will not change ANYTHING Trump and/or Congress does. It will not alter who he picks for SCOTUS, it will not change his mind on climate change, and he won’t resign.

On the other hand, you could be arrested and get some cooler time to think it all over.

If I live life as well as possible, pray, and go to church, it does not hurt the atheist in any way, shape, or form...except maybe his/her feelings because you can’t be brainwashed to see it their way.

If a candidate says he’ll raise my taxes, cut my income, abolish jobs, etc., I won’t vote for him. IF enough people agree with that s/he’ll win. Otherwise, the competition will win.

MYOB and live your life...I do not grant you permission to run, control, or direct my life in any way.


24 posted on 07/16/2018 7:56:50 AM PDT by FrankR (IF it wasn't for the "F-word", and it's deritives, the left would have no message at all.)
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If you check wikipedia regarding all the wars by millennium you will find that wars were mostly political.
To me it seems that the common thread in each war is a battle for the land to grow food...and space to carry out the daily functions of life. If there are different religious or political views involved they just get folded into that conflict.


26 posted on 07/16/2018 7:59:30 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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The Crusades were a defensive response to 600 years of muslim conquest.


32 posted on 07/16/2018 8:04:08 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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Since WWII, the US has killed more than 20 million people in the name of democracy.


What the hell is he talking about? Did I miss something?


33 posted on 07/16/2018 8:04:23 AM PDT by usafretired
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The Crusades, despite their excesses, were wars of self defense against Islam that had for centuries been hammering the world, killing, destroying, slaving, raping and all that.

Their excesses were simply because they were men of their times. Islam did far worse.

The Crusaders only waged limited war, fought a relative few battles, they accomplished their goals and then stopped, giving the Muslims menace time to recover and rearm, eventually to resume their aggression.

The Crusades were entirely justified.

The great tragedy of them is that they didn’t stop till Mecca was a burnt ruin never to be rebuilt and as many peoples of the East had been freed from Islam’s boot as could be freed.

Islam is not a victim. Islam is the victimizer, it can be nothing else, it’s just a progrom for conquests disguised as a religion. The only “good thing” about Islam is that people in general (not just Muslims) make bad disciples. When a Muslim doesn’t emulate Mohammad that’s much better for themselves and everyone else than when they do


36 posted on 07/16/2018 8:15:12 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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In terms of sheer body count and the number of people plunged into poverty, ideology can be more dangerous.

However, organized religion is more persistent. The Soviet Union lasted only a few decades. This is a blink-of-an-eye in comparison to the 1400 years that Islam has been a thorn in the side of civilization, with no end in sight. And it took about 1700 years for Organized Christianity to evolve variants (e.g., in England and the Netherlands) that were compatible with the kind of government that most of us would want to live under.

38 posted on 07/16/2018 8:25:06 AM PDT by snarkpup ("Socialism is like, 'Hey kid, get in my van. I've got a mountain of candy back there.'"-Styx)
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