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To: laconic; LS; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA

I cut Pierce some slack for one enormous reason: His young son was killed in front of his eyes in a train wreck before his swearing-in. Both he and his wife were suffering from shock and depression for the entirety of his administration (his wife almost never came out of her room at the WH). Mrs. Pierce believe the child’s death was the hand of Providence for her husband having run for the Presidency. More pitiable than incompetent.

His successor Buchanan couldn’t have done anything, either, to prevent what was coming. To his credit, at least he mobilized the Union in the last months of his term and tried to purge pro-Southern interests in his administration (although probably too late by then). Still, he was in an untenable position.

I agree about LBJ being a fiasco (willfully so) and Dubya has moved down in my estimation as well. He all but handed the keys of Congress to Pelosi and Co., and also did nothing to stop Zero, who was a clear and present threat to national security. He and his classless family issuing a de facto endorsement (with the daughters support outright) of Hillary in 2016 was the last straw. Elevating GHW Bush was Reagan’s greatest error in judgment.


38 posted on 08/11/2018 8:24:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Disagree on Buchanan.


39 posted on 08/11/2018 10:07:57 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Here’s my rankings for what they are worth - impact, not necessarily that I agreed with them or their policies: 1) Lincoln (won Civil War, emancipation); 2) Washington (knew not to confront the Brit Army except on his terms, voluntary stepped down after two terms); 3) Jefferson (LA. Purchase); 4) Reagan (restored pride, the economy, destroyed the USSR); 5) FDR (kicked Nazi Germany and Japan down the pipe hole largely at the expense of Russian lives); 6) Jackson (a tail kicker and honest, with the exception I didn’t like how he treated the tribes); 7) Truman (Berlin Airlift, trusted Uncle Joe a lot less than FDR); 8) Polk (accomplished an incredible amount in four years); 9) TR Roosevelt (built up US power); 10) Trump (just so far).

The worst, in terms of the long-term damage they did to the USA: 1) LBJ (stole his first election, Vietnam, Great Society, Immigration Act, prob. involved in JFK assassination and numerous other murders); 2) GW Bush; 3)Wilson (unnecessary WW1, entanglement in international orgs); 4 Grant - mismanaged Lincoln’s plan for Reconstruction; 5 Obama - corrupted government agencies of trust, moved toward state socialism.

The most inconsequential? Fillmore, Jerry Ford, Carter, Bush Sr., Tyler.


43 posted on 08/11/2018 10:13:20 AM PDT by laconic
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To: fieldmarshaldj; laconic; LS; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA

It’s gotta be Martin Van Buren...

He’s an all-time Iconic STUD of a President!

There’s even a New York street gang that named themselves after him... the Van Buren Boys...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkpnOTr8k9I

I’m tellin’ ya...


47 posted on 08/11/2018 12:13:28 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; laconic; LS; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT

We’ve talked before of these pathetic losers “Barney Gumble” Pierce and “Aunt Fancy” Buchanan.

Pierce boo hoo, if you can’t do the job you resign. I wish God had arranged for him to lose rather than kill his son.

And “Buchanan couldn’t have done anything” is a BS fatalistic excuse. Great men with power can reshape the world, go back in time and bust a cap in Julius Caesar before he conquers Gaul and see how different the world might be. Aunt Nancy sat and watched, sipping sherry while the kindling started to smolder. Fatalism is horse crap.

Worst: Easy, every democrat from Tyler (who was a democrat) to Obama (including Andrew Johnson) except for Grover Cleveland are the bottom on the list along with RINO Herbert Hoover (but for the opposite reason libs put him there).

The worst, FDR, Johnson, Carter, Obama.

Strong case for each of them for the prize. I would give it to the gimp, he’s the one who took a blow torch to the constitution in the first place and paved the way for the other pricks, anyone that would vote rat after ‘32 is a damn fool. That witch who grapped Zangara’s arm belongs in hell. That libs rank at or near the top tells you all you need to know. I’d put Carter in 2nd, giving away the Panama Canal was treason. I’d put Dingleberry all the way down at 4th, though not for lack of trying on his part, if he had Pelosi as Speaker for 8 years.......

Buchanan is the worst of the 18th Century. He should have been born about 150 years later so he could have died of AIDS.

BEST in no order

Lincoln, cause saying that pisses off certain rebel sympathizers almost as much as DJT pisses off the pussy hat gang. His biggest mistake, ‘sides not picking a better bodyguard, was replacing his VP with a turd democrat.

Harding (suck it, historians)
Coolidge

REAGAN!!!

Honorable Mention: Polk, a rat who actually kept his campaign promises, although that whole conquering California thing didn’t work out in the long run.

Worst POST-President, Teddy R. for that steaming dump he took in 1912.

Trump is in the top ten already, that’s how badly most Presidents have at best been mediocre or at worst never should have been born.


61 posted on 08/13/2018 11:48:11 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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