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1 posted on 08/28/2018 3:44:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I ran track in college.


2 posted on 08/28/2018 3:47:02 PM PDT by yarddog
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Yes! I would add to that - return of shop class and similar classes at the high school level.


4 posted on 08/28/2018 4:09:01 PM PDT by softengine
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5 posted on 08/28/2018 4:13:32 PM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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Several Industrial business owners I know of can not find any skilled welders or machinists below 50 years old.

They make a good bit of money hourly.

College is not for everybody.


6 posted on 08/28/2018 4:26:56 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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Definitely a good move. This is how workers in Switzerland are so competent. Each and every one was trained educationally for it, even your salesmen and ladies, produce guys, florists, etc. Only people in the few professions you need a university degree for go there. Everyone else picks a profession direction and goes to an internship after high school.

Typically they go to school in the morning for gen ed subjects that affect that career, and specific industry courses once they know those, and in the afternoon they will work for an employer for a small stipend. The employer in turn has promised the state they will be training this intern and preparing them to pass industry specific exams. At that point each new trainee is a diplomaed florist or whatever.


8 posted on 08/28/2018 4:55:30 PM PDT by Yaelle
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I am 100% behind this. The idea that, “if you don’t go to college you’ll never get a good paying job,” is over.

I was recently talking with an electrician and a plumber both of whom got their education and commercial licenses through a local vocational school. Both said they had more business than they could handle and were making really good money.

The trades will always be needed: good times, bad times, what ever, you’ll always need a good plumber or mechanic.


10 posted on 08/28/2018 5:14:47 PM PDT by upchuck (Election campaigns are a pain in the ass. Unless I win. Then it's a nice ego boost. ~ CongressmanX)
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A side benefit of this is taking average students who otherwise flunk out of college (and demand loan forgiveness) or earn grievance studies degrees (women’s studies, black studies) will do something PRODUCTIVE.

We’ll remove a large share of those who become social justice warriors.


12 posted on 08/28/2018 5:47:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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100% agree!


14 posted on 08/28/2018 5:52:39 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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The issue of making a good living is often traded away for the opportunity to hit a management track or rise to executive income. That later is extremely difficult to manage if one has no college degree.

The reason is that HR people, management people and others doing the interviews cull the number of applicants and those without a basic degrees are among those cut away. A non-traditional hire that does not work out reflects on those that did the hiring and taking non-conventional applicant leaves the decision maker exposed to criticism. Of course I will point out the obvious that how skilled and trained someone is will only partially be determined by their pre-career education.

I started a career in the late 1960s with that limitation and was saved due to an established family reputation in my particular field. It allowed me to almost always be interviewed and my track record carried me after I was in the door. Most people with the exact same qualifications would not fare as well I am afraid.

My father was proud that I was in the same industry and further proud when I achieved some heights that he never hurdled.

This giant mountain of debt that some are saddled with in the last 20 years is an absurd thing for modest income fields. That should provide a caution to all.


17 posted on 08/28/2018 7:39:19 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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Far too many college graduates leave school without the ability to actually DO anything. So they become ACADEMICS.

ACADEMIC: An individual educated beyond his intelligence, who is unwilling to or incapable of creating or providing goods or services of value to others, who pontificates and expects to be paid for it, usually from public funds.


19 posted on 08/30/2018 6:42:56 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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