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Flowerboys and the appeal of 'soft masculinity' in South Korea
The British Broadcasting Corporation ^ | September 8, 2018

Posted on 09/09/2018 1:12:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A man wearing make-up on the street may elicit unwelcome glares, questions about his masculinity and even his sexuality. But in South Korea, ideas about how to look good as a man are changing attitudes and influencing the world, as the BBC's Saira Asher reports.

When the BBC posted a video about the make-up routine of a 16-year-old YouTuber in Seoul on Facebook, the reactions ranged from intrigued to downright vitriolic.

Some assumed this meant he was gay, while others admonished him for his choice saying "real men don't wear make-up". There were, of course, those that argued for his freedom to live life however he pleased and against the "fragile masculinities" on show.

But Kim Seung-hwan is used to it. He says he's been called gay by some Koreans online for as long as he's been doing make-up tutorials.

When asked about whether he thought he looked feminine after he put on make-up, he was confused by the question as if he had never even thought about it....

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Business/Economy; Military/Veterans; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: fashion; flowerboy; flowerboys; korea; kpop; makeup; man; masculinity; men; softmasculinity; southkorea
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1 posted on 09/09/2018 1:12:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just wait until this guy gets drafted into the Army, as all Korean men are.


2 posted on 09/09/2018 1:15:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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He may have already served. It’s 21 months. We need to bring that back.


3 posted on 09/09/2018 1:17:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: dfwgator

The Wall Street Journal recently had an article about Korean soldiers’ skin-care routines. I cut it out and sent it to my daughter at Parris Island.


4 posted on 09/09/2018 2:43:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Kindness and truth shall meet." Ps. 85:10)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fad for young’ns not responsible for dealing with complex life management issues. When the SHTF young’ns won’t have the time or money to spend on such activities.
I work with lots of Koreans...they do well...and they have the means for self indulgence....causing medical harm to one of my younger colleagues. He too is preoccupied with “looking good”


5 posted on 09/09/2018 3:11:52 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s the increasing consumerization of our society globally.

Has anyone ever checked what the average millennial woman takes into the shower with her? It’s got to be 8-10 soaps and lotions and potions, with all kinds of brushes and scrubby applicators.


6 posted on 09/09/2018 3:25:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My Asian girlfriend says it is now an epedemic in most asian countries and it’s impossible to find a “real” man. They look and act like girls.

IMO it is due to pumping soy and plasticizers into damn near everything they eat/drink.

The USA is not too far behind. Comparing most American young men to those from Russia is like night/day. I think locking kids up indoors in fear of pedophiles also has something to do with it. In Russia they are still free to play outside and do real “boy” things


7 posted on 09/09/2018 3:44:02 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

I hope they plan to leave the Korean women to us....


8 posted on 09/09/2018 4:10:27 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: 9YearLurker

“Has anyone ever checked what the average millennial woman takes into the shower with her?”

I volunteer to do the research.

L


9 posted on 09/09/2018 4:16:59 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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Ha ha!


10 posted on 09/09/2018 4:17:58 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OH MY .....


11 posted on 09/09/2018 4:27:45 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES
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There are 2 legitimate reasons for men to wear make-up 1. When your bow hunting. 2. An attempt to avoid facial recognition. Of course neither of those reasons would cause people to believe that you had some sort of gender confusion, they'll just think your weird when you wear sharply angled black make-up in public.
12 posted on 09/09/2018 5:50:18 AM PDT by radmanptn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Corporal Klinger was a coward who dressed in drag in hope of a discharge. It may well be that S. Koreas more feminized Klingers hope for a discharge from the social responsibilities shouldered by real men, including defense of one’s country.


13 posted on 09/09/2018 6:00:19 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The 1980s new romatics welcome their South Korean chpater......


14 posted on 09/09/2018 6:06:27 AM PDT by machman
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To: Lurker

A silent moment with hand over heart in res ppl ect for your sacrifice.


15 posted on 09/09/2018 6:18:27 AM PDT by Noumenon (When all liberals have is a hammer, every problem is a nail in YOUR coffin.)
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To: radmanptn

Many American men are fascinated with Korean girls, but South Korea has a nearly zero birth rate.


16 posted on 09/09/2018 6:25:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Kindness and truth shall meet." Ps. 85:10)
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To: varyouga

"...locking kids up indoors..."


Agreed. There is a remarkable paranoia that young parents feel their kid will be snatched if not in “scheduled” events.

This feminization of American males has countless negative features for both genders and our whole country at large. All the passive things kids do instead of being active out in the sunshine is weakening them.


17 posted on 09/09/2018 6:27:36 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In Thailand, they call them ‘ladyboys’. :P


18 posted on 09/09/2018 6:33:50 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“We need to bring that back.”

I don’t think it’s right to force someone to sign a contract but boy, do we need it. I would love to see the faces on them in boot camp. Oh, and women too.


19 posted on 09/09/2018 6:56:23 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Lurker

Luker, our new “Laz’’.


20 posted on 09/09/2018 7:10:15 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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