[turfmann]

Not to stomp all over your otherwise valid point, the California depicted by The Beach Boys was a fantasy.

[Mouton]

I visited Manhattan beach in 72. Exactly how it was shown in the opening scenes of “blow” the movie. That was California for me.

[morphing libertarian]

It wasn’t a fantasy, it was a goal

[ifinnegan]

You ever been to California?

[hanamizu]

California was pretty nice in the 40s, 50s, and 60s. I remember thinking how odd it was that there were gangs back in the east. If there were gangs in California, they weren’t in control of much of anything. As a kid I rode the Pacific Electric from Long Beach to L.A., alone and was never bothered even though it made stops in Watts and Willowbrook. California used to be better.