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To: blueplum

Well your extreme bias is on display for all to see. I wouldn’t trust your account of any historical subject.


19 posted on 10/14/2018 12:54:21 AM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left; RJS1950; rockrr

Does “scorched earth” ring a bell. Or Shiloh. Fort Donalson maybe? Banning Jews ‘as a class’ from Illinois? Cold Harbor? Vicksburg siege? Petersburg siege? Families dragged from their homes in the middle of the night to become Ft. McHenry hostages? Kidnapping men fresh off the immigrant boat docks for conscription into the Union Army? Opposing the Texicans and the Mexican war that netted us California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas? Or Grant’s inability to follow orders, his disastrous management of POWs and equally disastrous reconstruction?

How about his drifting about until he was almost 40, living off his wife’s family, or his brothers’, and their connections to Washburne? Washburne, who somehow managed to get Grant promoted from ‘military aide’ to Colonel in less than 2 months, and Colonel to Brigadier General in the same amount of time? Quite the climb for a supply sgt who was in his cups more often than not - and that’s not a myth.

How about Sherman peacocking around bragging to any ear in DC he could turn about the terrible conditions he brought down upon women and children and the old - including slaves who had nowhere to go - left on the farm to starve - raided of all provisions, homes burned, livestock confiscated or killed and fields salted? Hardly a myth.

The North will only admit to 50,000 southern civilian deaths, but Grant really didn’t have any incentive to make an accurate count once he was in a position to, now did he? Political animal that he had become with the southern vote repressed.

Lee’s citizenship? He didn’t live as a ‘citizen,’ after the War. He died without his citizenship being restored. But he did live as he did before the War of Unjust Aggression - a man of honor trying to deal with Spanish, French and Northern slave-dumping and Northern opposition to compensation for, and mass deportation of, those slaves. At the same time in northern state after northern state laws were passed making it illegal for blacks to live up there, or the West for that matter, firmly locking slaves into the South but providing the South no recourse of its own.

Only the undeducated would make an association of the South as ‘you democrats’. The South had and has both republicans and democrats. The post-war tax collectors made no distinction between the two and neither did the carpetbaggers. The only thing that mattered was who was above the Mason-Dixon line and who was below. The North sucked in how it exploited and punished Confederates, black and white as second-class citizens - most of whom never owned a slave. Half of whom’s families settled the land to begin with. An attitude that obviously continues to this day, from some comments.

So, again, unless we’re discussing slave-holders, Grant doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same paragraph as Robert E. Lee.

The below link may be useful in understanding why, the Civil War is rightly called the War of Unjust Aggression. There were ways to end slavery just as there were ways to avoid seccession - war was the lamest choice:
http://slavenorth.com/


37 posted on 10/15/2018 9:36:34 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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