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The Proud Boys Dilemma
Youtube ^ | October 22, 2018 | Gerard Perry

Posted on 10/22/2018 9:25:14 AM PDT by OddLane

I explain why the decision by ordinary Republicans and conservatives to condemn Gavin McInnes and the Proud Boys will only bring us more misery and political strife


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: antifa; proudboys

1 posted on 10/22/2018 9:25:14 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

I thINK no they’re GREAT
BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF ANTIFA THUGS


2 posted on 10/22/2018 9:27:24 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: OddLane

Gavin has bent over backwards to avoid “nazis” and ferret out people who speak like them —didn’t matter.

That fight in NYC? The libs had been terrorizing the speech venue for THREE DAYS STRAIGHT before a single punch was thrown.

Antifa had absolutely dedicated itself for days and days, trying to cause violence there and the general public only saw FOUR SECONDS, when our guys finally fought back.

The lesson is total control of the media.

Gavin is a complete pussycat compared to what’s out there.


3 posted on 10/22/2018 9:28:16 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: OddLane

I don’t know who they are nor what they do. Based on inklings I’m getting from these threads they may be a hint of what is to come (and is needed) after the mid-terms.


4 posted on 10/22/2018 9:28:35 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: OddLane

Is this the same Gavin McInnes who produced a video named “10 Things I Hate About Jews??

https://forward.com/fast-forward/366077/watch-vice-co-founder-makes-10-things-i-hate-about-jews-video/


5 posted on 10/22/2018 9:37:28 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: OddLane

If a group such as Proud Boys is planning to make a positive impact, and stay mostly out of jail, they need a reliable team of lawyers at their beck and call. Do not expect the law of the land alone to act as your Safety Net vs Antifa, especially not in the extremely Liberal cities.

Proud Boys should try to ALWAYS have one of their guys filming the entire event, or key moments of conflict.
If they don’t have proper legal representation from the beginning, The State won’t really help them against Antifa. Be tough, but be ready to legally and aggressively push back.


6 posted on 10/22/2018 9:40:19 AM PDT by lee martell (AT)
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To: OddLane

I think we have nothing to lose by distancing ourselves from The Proud Boys. When these brawls with Antifa occur, you know who will be blamed. It blurs the distinction between the typical Trump supporter and the street thugs on the left.


7 posted on 10/22/2018 10:00:34 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Blue House Sue

Yes.


8 posted on 10/22/2018 10:01:56 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Steve_Seattle
I explained at length why this is a bad strategy in the video.

But to summarize, it doesn't matter what you do to "distance" yourselves from them. You're still in their sites.

The attacks against the alt lite or "objectionable" right wingers will simply be moved on to more moderate conservatives.

9 posted on 10/22/2018 10:36:40 AM PDT by OddLane
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Constantly wetting our pants and avoiding confrontation is what has brought us to this place.

Basic human behavior - you makes bullies stop being bullies by punching them in the face.

Taking the moral high ground any longer will only assure you your cattle car trip to the camps. We win or they win - there is no longer any middle ground.


10 posted on 10/22/2018 11:06:06 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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This is from the official Proud Boys website:

Proud Boys‘ values center on the following tenets:
Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.”

We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us.

We have an international reach, with members spanning the globe.


11 posted on 10/22/2018 11:08:02 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: OddLane

I’m with them.


12 posted on 10/22/2018 11:11:50 AM PDT by myerson
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To: OddLane
"The attacks against the alt lite or "objectionable" right wingers will simply be moved on to more moderate conservatives."

I know who I am, but I don't know who The Proud Boys are; you hear so many contradictory statements about who they are and what they stand for, ranging from just scruffy ordinary conservatives to neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

Regardless of what their actual beliefs and goals are, they seem to enjoy street confrontations and - as I said before - they/we will NEVER win that PR battle. People who support Trump should go to Trump rallies, or stay home and quietly vote. Battling Antifa on the streets is a losing strategy. And - if someone harasses me in a restaurant - I will call 9/11. I won't leave unless asked to by management, and if I am asked to leave and the harassers are allowed to stay, I will give that place some very bad publicity.
13 posted on 10/22/2018 11:19:53 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: TheTimeOfMan

That works for me.


14 posted on 10/22/2018 3:29:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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